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Is RSS really a technology or a part of the failed attempt of having a semantic web (the real web 3.0) ? RSS is easily replaceable by just scrapping a website,

by polote 5y ago

Is RSS really a technology or a part of the failed attempt of having a semantic web (the real web 3.0) ? RSS is easily replaceable by just scrapping a website, technologically speaking it doesn't make sense to have everyone making a request to website every minute. We could have a central service responsible for that, but I guess it will centralized and some people don't like that

mdp2021 5y ago
> RSS is easily replaceable by just scrapping a website A custom analysis by the user - maybe tech illiterate -, from every user, for every, supposedly complex, website, instead of some xml-izing wrapping over 'SELECT * FROM news ORDER BY pubdate DESC LIMIT 100'?! > a request to website every minute RSS takes less bandwidth than doing the same operation through direct visit. And of course, one is not supposed to do it that frequently; though again, some browsing agents may load pages more frequently than every minute.
selfhoster11 5y ago
Scraping is measurably less efficient and reliable on the client side. Its "API" (page layout) varies without notice, where RSS will remain the same. I can only condone scraping if the official API is so convoluted that scraping the page is literally the easier option to program against.
RNCTX 5y ago
TTL is a thing.
bluefox 5y ago
It doesn't mean everyone is making a request to a website every minute. I use http://gwene.org/ http://gwene.org/ for example. To me RSS or Atom are a major success, as the blogs I want to read almost always seem to have them. Those that don't, well, I used to scrape, but after a while stopped and forgotten about them. If gwene goes under, it'll suck but I'll have a gwene like on my own server. If RSS goes under, it'll go under here and there, and not wholesale. Good technology is resilient like that.

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Is RSS really a technology or a part of the failed attempt of having a semantic web (the real web 3.0) ? RSS is easily replaceable by just scrapping a website,

by polote 5y ago

mdp2021 5y ago
> RSS is easily replaceable by just scrapping a website A custom analysis by the user - maybe tech illiterate -, from every user, for every, supposedly complex, website, instead of some xml-izing wrapping over 'SELECT * FROM news ORDER BY pubdate DESC LIMIT 100'?! > a request to website every minute RSS takes less bandwidth than doing the same operation through direct visit. And of course, one is not supposed to do it that frequently; though again, some browsing agents may load pages more frequently than every minute.
selfhoster11 5y ago
Scraping is measurably less efficient and reliable on the client side. Its "API" (page layout) varies without notice, where RSS will remain the same. I can only condone scraping if the official API is so convoluted that scraping the page is literally the easier option to program against.
RNCTX 5y ago
TTL is a thing.
bluefox 5y ago
It doesn't mean everyone is making a request to a website every minute. I use http://gwene.org/ http://gwene.org/ for example. To me RSS or Atom are a major success, as the blogs I want to read almost always seem to have them. Those that don't, well, I used to scrape, but after a while stopped and forgotten about them. If gwene goes under, it'll suck but I'll have a gwene like on my own server. If RSS goes under, it'll go under here and there, and not wholesale. Good technology is resilient like that.