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Seems slightly ironic that the hashtag #RSSaintdead hasn't been used since 2015

superkuh 5y ago
Is it? The idea of RSS was to escape complicated, centralizing, proprietary platforms like twitter. In order to read the post in this discussion's twitter link I'd have to execute their code on my machine. There's no way to access twitter via text. I certainly hope that most RSS users are shying away from such a terrible platform.
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  This highlights, in an interesting way, one of the downsides to RSS as a technology in the era of centralized services. Really, of all decentralized services in the era of centralized services. When you want to make a pitch to somebody that RSS is valuable, you don't have direct statistics on its global use. You can pull access logs for your own servers, but if you're trying to justify to a boss the investment of setting up an RSS service where you don't have one already, you're going to have to use someone's proxy numbers on how popular it is. Meanwhile, Twitter's access logs are a direct signal on the popularity of Twitter. Their story for telling potential investors how many users they have is very short.
- boring_twenties 5y ago
  https://github.com/zedeus/nitter https://github.com/zedeus/nitter
- SahAssar 5y ago
  RSS was first released/specified in 1999, so to say that the idea was to escape platforms like twitter is rewriting history (myspace didn't even launch until 4 years later, friendster three years later). The idea of RSS seems to (originally and still in some ways) to be able to keep track of updates to many different sites from one application. My point was rather that twitter is a place where brands listen and also a place where a lot of web devs talk. If RSS is to continue being seen as relevant twitter would be a good place to advocate for it.
  - karaterobot 5y ago
    > RSS was first released/specified in 1999, so to say that the idea was to escape platforms like twitter is rewriting history But they said "proprietary platforms like Twitter", not Twitter, so they would not be wrong in making that statement. Except, in an unexpected twist, RSS was actually initially developed to be used on Netscape's proprietary portal. It was not until a bit later that the open standards, anti-monopoly group won out.
  - dredmorbius 5y ago
    "like Twitter" != "specifically Twitter". Put positively: RSS anticipated Twitter and preemptively routed around it.
dqv 5y ago
I can’t really trust Twitter to have accurate searches like that. The tag search misses tons of tweets IME.
renewiltord 5y ago
The hashtag #AirpodsAintDead hasn't ever been used, though. One must conclude that they, sadly, are.

Is it? The idea of RSS was to escape complicated, centralizing, proprietary platforms like twitter. In order to read the post in this discussion's twitter link I'd have to execute their code on my machine. There's no way to access twitter via text. I certainly hope that most RSS users are shying away from such a terrible platform.

shadowgovt 5y ago
This highlights, in an interesting way, one of the downsides to RSS as a technology in the era of centralized services. Really, of all decentralized services in the era of centralized services. When you want to make a pitch to somebody that RSS is valuable, you don't have direct statistics on its global use. You can pull access logs for your own servers, but if you're trying to justify to a boss the investment of setting up an RSS service where you don't have one already, you're going to have to use someone's proxy numbers on how popular it is. Meanwhile, Twitter's access logs are a direct signal on the popularity of Twitter. Their story for telling potential investors how many users they have is very short.
boring_twenties 5y ago
https://github.com/zedeus/nitter https://github.com/zedeus/nitter
SahAssar 5y ago
RSS was first released/specified in 1999, so to say that the idea was to escape platforms like twitter is rewriting history (myspace didn't even launch until 4 years later, friendster three years later). The idea of RSS seems to (originally and still in some ways) to be able to keep track of updates to many different sites from one application. My point was rather that twitter is a place where brands listen and also a place where a lot of web devs talk. If RSS is to continue being seen as relevant twitter would be a good place to advocate for it.
- karaterobot 5y ago
  > RSS was first released/specified in 1999, so to say that the idea was to escape platforms like twitter is rewriting history But they said "proprietary platforms like Twitter", not Twitter, so they would not be wrong in making that statement. Except, in an unexpected twist, RSS was actually initially developed to be used on Netscape's proprietary portal. It was not until a bit later that the open standards, anti-monopoly group won out.
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  "like Twitter" != "specifically Twitter". Put positively: RSS anticipated Twitter and preemptively routed around it.

dqv 5y ago

I can’t really trust Twitter to have accurate searches like that. The tag search misses tons of tweets IME.

renewiltord 5y ago

The hashtag #AirpodsAintDead hasn't ever been used, though. One must conclude that they, sadly, are.