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How is it obsolete? This is an honest question. I SSH into the personal server hosting my website and tweak things all the time. If there's an easier way to get

How is it obsolete? This is an honest question. I SSH into the personal server hosting my website and tweak things all the time. If there's an easier way to get things done – let me know!

oblio 5y ago
At a higher level of operation, companies are switching to immutable infrastructure. So you don't need to SSH to debug, you'd just re-deploy another container or something. However, there's an <<extremely>> long tail of places, equivalent to mom and pop stores, where SSH will still be in use for a long, long time. I include antiquated banks or government in "mom and pop stores" for the purposes of this discussion :-p
- jyounker 5y ago
  > So you don't need to SSH to debug, you'd just re-deploy another container or something. I've still never seen a place where this was true. At some point you always run into a situation where you need to see what's happening inside the container in production at a level of detail that isn't available except by directly connecting. So you attach a sidecar with SSH, or you deploy a debug version of your container that runs SSH, and then you SSH into your container and see what's happening.
ccalloway 5y ago
I mean, the example you gave of what you use ssh for is itself an obsolete function. Using a personal Unix server to host a personal website is not really any different than making your own clothes using a sewing machine. It is perfectly fine - but it's a niche activity done by hobbyists who enjoy the process itself.
- spekcular 5y ago
  How should I be hosting my website then? Suppose for the sake of an example it's some simple custom HTML, CSS, and a few javascript math apps. I don't enjoy the process, I just need the damn website online. (Again – an honest question! I was never formally instructed in these matters.)

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How is it obsolete? This is an honest question. I SSH into the personal server hosting my website and tweak things all the time. If there's an easier way to get

by spekcular 5y ago

How is it obsolete? This is an honest question. I SSH into the personal server hosting my website and tweak things all the time. If there's an easier way to get things done – let me know!

oblio 5y ago
At a higher level of operation, companies are switching to immutable infrastructure. So you don't need to SSH to debug, you'd just re-deploy another container or something. However, there's an <<extremely>> long tail of places, equivalent to mom and pop stores, where SSH will still be in use for a long, long time. I include antiquated banks or government in "mom and pop stores" for the purposes of this discussion :-p
- jyounker 5y ago
  > So you don't need to SSH to debug, you'd just re-deploy another container or something. I've still never seen a place where this was true. At some point you always run into a situation where you need to see what's happening inside the container in production at a level of detail that isn't available except by directly connecting. So you attach a sidecar with SSH, or you deploy a debug version of your container that runs SSH, and then you SSH into your container and see what's happening.
ccalloway 5y ago
I mean, the example you gave of what you use ssh for is itself an obsolete function. Using a personal Unix server to host a personal website is not really any different than making your own clothes using a sewing machine. It is perfectly fine - but it's a niche activity done by hobbyists who enjoy the process itself.
- spekcular 5y ago
  How should I be hosting my website then? Suppose for the sake of an example it's some simple custom HTML, CSS, and a few javascript math apps. I don't enjoy the process, I just need the damn website online. (Again – an honest question! I was never formally instructed in these matters.)