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> Is Turing's Imitation Game - in its original formulation to identify which of players A and B is the woman and the man - so easily solved? I don't think so.
by FabHK 5y ago
> Is Turing's Imitation Game - in its original formulation to identify which of players A and B is the woman and the man - so easily solved? I don't think so.
The imitation game is adversarial (both players try to convince the interrogator that they are the woman, or the human). GP was talking about non-adversarial settings.
- eesmith 5y agoThe original claim was "Any significant text (just a few paragraphs)". "Warm Worlds and Otherwise" is a significant text. I'll grant this qualifier for purposes of discussion. In that case: - if someone writes using adversarial methods, can that person's gender still be detected? How much text is required? - Here are male authors who wrote romances using a female pseudonym - https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/104973.Male_Authors_Who_Wrote_Romances_Using_A_Female_s_Pseudonym_Pen_Name https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/104973.Male_Authors_Who_... . Can we presume they used other adversarial methods? I do. - How many people are trained to write using an adversarial style? (Quoting the top Google hit for "write like a man" at https://www.timsquirrell.com/blog/2017/3/29/write-like-a-man-gendered-differences-in-undergraduate-writing https://www.timsquirrell.com/blog/2017/3/29/write-like-a-man... : """Teachers often make up for this by telling their female students, either explicitly or implicitly, to "write like a man". This means that they should write confidently, "objectively", not hedging their arguments, coming down boldly on one side of an issue, etc.""") - Are all gender mis-identifications due to the authors using deliberate adversarial techniques?