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I don't care much for this "Web4" proposal (yet) but can we get our terminologies unified? AFAIK Web 2.0 is the era of user-generated content[1] and, IMO, was t

I don't care much for this "Web4" proposal (yet) but can we get our terminologies unified? AFAIK Web 2.0 is the era of user-generated content[1] and, IMO, was the most vibrant era of the internet. That's my "good old days" though I've witnessed the tail end of 1. Even if you're not at all a fan of that Web 2.0 era, what's with the overly-cynical characterization here? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 (and oh look, apparently Sir Tim Berners-Lee has also already defined what Web 3.0 is).

selfhoster11 5y ago
Web 2.0 to me means the era when everything got centralised under a few social media providers. The early 2.0 era was definitely just 1.0 with additional collaborative/sharing energy injected into the system, but by the time we got halfway through, it become obvious that the walled gardens are encroaching on traditional 1.0 space and that Google has abandoned the "don't be evil" motto (which I took to be the bellwether of the changes to come).
WastingMyTime89 5y ago
Web 2.0 was a loosely defined marketing term which was already extremely controversial when it was coined to promote conferences. Web 3.0 is even more loosely defined. These terms are purposefully devoid of substance so as to be applicable to as many things as possible. It’s probably going to be hard to get a unified understanding of what they mean.
- kreeben 5y ago
  But these version numbers sure make us feel we're progressing towards something more refined, something that will soon cater to all of humanity's needs as opposed to just becoming better at tracking people, polarizing them and creating wealth for FAANG's and their mother.
nixpulvis 5y ago
my take fwiw: https://nixpulvis.com/ramblings/2018-08-11-web-shit-point-oh https://nixpulvis.com/ramblings/2018-08-11-web-shit-point-oh

selfhoster11 5y ago

Web 2.0 to me means the era when everything got centralised under a few social media providers. The early 2.0 era was definitely just 1.0 with additional collaborative/sharing energy injected into the system, but by the time we got halfway through, it become obvious that the walled gardens are encroaching on traditional 1.0 space and that Google has abandoned the "don't be evil" motto (which I took to be the bellwether of the changes to come).

WastingMyTime89 5y ago

Web 2.0 was a loosely defined marketing term which was already extremely controversial when it was coined to promote conferences. Web 3.0 is even more loosely defined. These terms are purposefully devoid of substance so as to be applicable to as many things as possible. It’s probably going to be hard to get a unified understanding of what they mean.

kreeben 5y ago
But these version numbers sure make us feel we're progressing towards something more refined, something that will soon cater to all of humanity's needs as opposed to just becoming better at tracking people, polarizing them and creating wealth for FAANG's and their mother.

nixpulvis 5y ago

my take fwiw: https://nixpulvis.com/ramblings/2018-08-11-web-shit-point-oh https://nixpulvis.com/ramblings/2018-08-11-web-shit-point-oh