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There was some recent news article about this. I think it is not unreasonable take, because obviously crypto is safer to use for fringe groups than Visa or Payp

by Yizahi 5y ago

There was some recent news article about this. I think it is not unreasonable take, because obviously crypto is safer to use for fringe groups than Visa or Paypal. But I agree the wording is way too hysterical, that is a bad sign.

samhw 5y ago
I mean, 'money laundering' is a very different thing from 'using a different payment protocol because you've been banned from conventional ones'. I'm not at all right-wing, but it sets a dangerous precedent to establish 'acceptable' payment protocols run by the dominant monopolies, then ban people whom you don't like, and baselessly accuse them of 'money laundering' when they (obviously) go somewhere else.
blueflow 5y ago
I'm not from the anglosphere. Google does not spit out anything useful to me. What did happen? I still don't know what you are talking about.
- lawtalkinghuman 5y ago
  Regarding this week's SPLC report: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/585306-bitcoin-surge-a-boon-for-white-nationalists-study https://thehill.com/policy/technology/585306-bitcoin-surge-a... https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/12/08/bitcoin-adoption-among-far-right-extremists-leaves-its-mark-on-the-blockchain/ https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/12/08/bitcoin-adoption-am... https://gizmodo.com/far-right-leaders-are-raking-in-millions-from-bitcoin-1848194734 https://gizmodo.com/far-right-leaders-are-raking-in-millions... A random sample of previous coverage: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/24/bitcoin-currency-far-right-neo-nazis-cryptocurrencies https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/24/bitcoi... https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-international-news-technology-suicides-france-1e36d9c422b097a16c44b3bf5c8c3f46 https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-international-news-... https://decrypt.co/80971/far-right-conspiracist-sent-60000-bitcoin-fund-legal-case https://decrypt.co/80971/far-right-conspiracist-sent-60000-b...
  - blueflow 5y ago
    The 6 articles you linked neither mention money laundering, nor describe something that qualifies (in my understanding) as money laundering.
    - lawtalkinghuman 5y ago
      The original post did not use money laundering in the legal sense but in the ordinary language use sense of the phrase.
      - blueflow 5y ago
        Don't bullshit me, we both know it was written with defamatory intent, and it turned out its not substantiable. Its slander.
      - tarboreus 5y ago
        ...which means what? This seems like an odd equivocation. Is money laundering the newest term to get a new, politically useful definition?

by Yizahi 5y ago

samhw 5y ago

I mean, 'money laundering' is a very different thing from 'using a different payment protocol because you've been banned from conventional ones'. I'm not at all right-wing, but it sets a dangerous precedent to establish 'acceptable' payment protocols run by the dominant monopolies, then ban people whom you don't like, and baselessly accuse them of 'money laundering' when they (obviously) go somewhere else.

blueflow 5y ago

I'm not from the anglosphere. Google does not spit out anything useful to me. What did happen? I still don't know what you are talking about.

lawtalkinghuman 5y ago
Regarding this week's SPLC report: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/585306-bitcoin-surge-a-boon-for-white-nationalists-study https://thehill.com/policy/technology/585306-bitcoin-surge-a... https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/12/08/bitcoin-adoption-among-far-right-extremists-leaves-its-mark-on-the-blockchain/ https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/12/08/bitcoin-adoption-am... https://gizmodo.com/far-right-leaders-are-raking-in-millions-from-bitcoin-1848194734 https://gizmodo.com/far-right-leaders-are-raking-in-millions... A random sample of previous coverage: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/24/bitcoin-currency-far-right-neo-nazis-cryptocurrencies https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/24/bitcoi... https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-international-news-technology-suicides-france-1e36d9c422b097a16c44b3bf5c8c3f46 https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-international-news-... https://decrypt.co/80971/far-right-conspiracist-sent-60000-bitcoin-fund-legal-case https://decrypt.co/80971/far-right-conspiracist-sent-60000-b...
- blueflow 5y ago
  The 6 articles you linked neither mention money laundering, nor describe something that qualifies (in my understanding) as money laundering.
  - lawtalkinghuman 5y ago
    The original post did not use money laundering in the legal sense but in the ordinary language use sense of the phrase.
    - blueflow 5y ago
      Don't bullshit me, we both know it was written with defamatory intent, and it turned out its not substantiable. Its slander.
    - tarboreus 5y ago
      ...which means what? This seems like an odd equivocation. Is money laundering the newest term to get a new, politically useful definition?