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Yes. Meanwhile, I hear that "capitalism works" but we have tens of thousands of Americans dying each year due to lack of basic medical care, our students are s

Yes. Meanwhile, I hear that "capitalism works" but we have tens of thousands of Americans dying each year due to lack of basic medical care, our students are saddled with educational debt that the boomer generation did not have to pay, people cannot survive working full time on minimum wage, and our politicians are pocketing huge financial gain to avoid a rapid conversion to renewable energy or affordable health care. If you call that "working" then let me say we can do much much better.

akomtu 5y ago
All this are comical problems compared to what we'd had in a marxist regime. Instead of tens of thousands dying from lack of medical care, there would be tens of millions dead due to ideological cleanings (e.g. uygurs in china), and there won't be much of healthcare anyway because doctors don't like to work for free. This brings us to the education. In marxist regimes students are simply sent to work for a few years in places where the party needs them. No debts, but no freedom. The equivalent of the minimum wage problem in marxism is empty shelves: your salary buys a lot of stuff, on paper, but there's simply no goods to buy due to price control. So far your arguments are just a wishlist: you say what you want, but don't explain how to get it.
- SequoiaHope 5y ago
  I suppose you don’t know anything about the doctors in Cuba then. > So far your arguments are just a wishlist: you say what you want, but don't explain how to get it. Actually I often explain how I’m going to help create a system that can free people from the need to work. The fact that I’ve not explained it to you so far in this conversation is not evidence that I don’t have a plan. I am a skilled robotics engineer and I will work with others to create productive machinery which lowers the cost of living until those benefitting from this system do not even need to work to get what they need. What you do not realize is that the Marxist critique of the way capitalism organizes production can be applied to engineered systems without any use of force or state power. I will simply collaborate with others to build machines we own which provide for us. In this way we will create community ownership of the means of production in a voluntary system that works without any laws in the USA changing. This is a plan informed by Marx’s critique of capitalist production, and also informed by the failure of authoritarian communism.

akomtu 5y ago

All this are comical problems compared to what we'd had in a marxist regime. Instead of tens of thousands dying from lack of medical care, there would be tens of millions dead due to ideological cleanings (e.g. uygurs in china), and there won't be much of healthcare anyway because doctors don't like to work for free. This brings us to the education. In marxist regimes students are simply sent to work for a few years in places where the party needs them. No debts, but no freedom. The equivalent of the minimum wage problem in marxism is empty shelves: your salary buys a lot of stuff, on paper, but there's simply no goods to buy due to price control. So far your arguments are just a wishlist: you say what you want, but don't explain how to get it.

SequoiaHope 5y ago
I suppose you don’t know anything about the doctors in Cuba then. > So far your arguments are just a wishlist: you say what you want, but don't explain how to get it. Actually I often explain how I’m going to help create a system that can free people from the need to work. The fact that I’ve not explained it to you so far in this conversation is not evidence that I don’t have a plan. I am a skilled robotics engineer and I will work with others to create productive machinery which lowers the cost of living until those benefitting from this system do not even need to work to get what they need. What you do not realize is that the Marxist critique of the way capitalism organizes production can be applied to engineered systems without any use of force or state power. I will simply collaborate with others to build machines we own which provide for us. In this way we will create community ownership of the means of production in a voluntary system that works without any laws in the USA changing. This is a plan informed by Marx’s critique of capitalist production, and also informed by the failure of authoritarian communism.