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I co-host a GNUstep developer stream at https://twitch.tv/objcretain https://twitch.tv/objcretain (replays at https://replay.objc-retain.com https://replay.objc

I co-host a GNUstep developer stream at https://twitch.tv/objcretain https://twitch.tv/objcretain (replays at https://replay.objc-retain.com https://replay.objc-retain.com). The motivation my co-host and I have for using GNUstep in 2021 and beyond is to provide a familiar environment for macOS developers and users who are not happy with Apple’s direction and would benefit from a free software alternative. To that end we mostly work on the basic desktop tools like calendar, mail, and addresses, and fix framework/dev tools bugs and missing parts as we find them.

inDigiNeous 5y ago
Sounds like a cool hobby. But solving basic desktop tools, sounds like bikeshedding to me :) Not to disrespect the project, I find Objective-C and the Cocoa model nice, but realistically looking at it almost nobody uses GNUStep, so why write apps for it ?
- gcasa 5y ago
  That is precisely why... it's new ground. It's fun. It's interesting. Why write applications (or, in your words "bikeshedding" -- an interesting term, I had to look it up. :))... because it's a chance to create something totally new. The mission is two fold: 1) Bring the elegance of easy development to every other operating system... and 2) Give Apple developers someplace else to deploy their applications. GNUstep is meant to be a drop in replacement for Cocoa. By Cocoa I mean Foundation and AppKit, not all of the Core this and Core that libraries. We have those, but they are less mature than Foundation and AppKit. GNUstep is also themable, as I have pointed out in other responses. GC
  - inDigiNeous 5y ago
    Well, that is a noble goal. Hope you can manage even portion of it. Would be nice to have a way to deploy macOS applications on other platforms, but seeing it is already difficult enough to make sure macOS applications even work on different versions of macOS, that is a difficult task to achieve. But godspeed to your project, Objective-C, Cocoa and the whole NeXTSTep visual identity is a nice combo.

inDigiNeous 5y ago

Sounds like a cool hobby. But solving basic desktop tools, sounds like bikeshedding to me :) Not to disrespect the project, I find Objective-C and the Cocoa model nice, but realistically looking at it almost nobody uses GNUStep, so why write apps for it ?

gcasa 5y ago
That is precisely why... it's new ground. It's fun. It's interesting. Why write applications (or, in your words "bikeshedding" -- an interesting term, I had to look it up. :))... because it's a chance to create something totally new. The mission is two fold: 1) Bring the elegance of easy development to every other operating system... and 2) Give Apple developers someplace else to deploy their applications. GNUstep is meant to be a drop in replacement for Cocoa. By Cocoa I mean Foundation and AppKit, not all of the Core this and Core that libraries. We have those, but they are less mature than Foundation and AppKit. GNUstep is also themable, as I have pointed out in other responses. GC
- inDigiNeous 5y ago
  Well, that is a noble goal. Hope you can manage even portion of it. Would be nice to have a way to deploy macOS applications on other platforms, but seeing it is already difficult enough to make sure macOS applications even work on different versions of macOS, that is a difficult task to achieve. But godspeed to your project, Objective-C, Cocoa and the whole NeXTSTep visual identity is a nice combo.