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Toyota is going to make you pay to start your car with your key fob

23 points by gabea 5y ago

LinuxBender 5y ago
This concept isn't new. OnStar a third party service has been providing this for cars for a long time. I think a few vehicle manufacturers have bundled OnStar in the past, maybe Cadillac, Buick, GMC, maybe Chevy? I want to say there were others as well. They can remotely unlock or lock your vehicle, send medical and law enforcement to your location, detect if you were in an accident, do hands-free calling for help. Now I sound like one of their old commercials. OnStar handles key fobs remotely too.
electric_muse 5y ago
“You’ll own nothing and be happy” https://web.archive.org/web/20200919112906/https://twitter.com/wef/status/799632174043561984 https://web.archive.org/web/20200919112906/https://twitter.c... Really taken to a new level
- thoraway66 5y ago
  Yeah because belief is truth Also Nostradamus was correct about the end of the world Jesus turned water into wine It’s almost as if humans have a track record of gullible belief and superstition about the truth embedded in their social ways I have a MacBook and iPhone for work. My own imagination is quite fertile. Except for the big utilitarian projects, I really don’t need other people. If the grind is just to entertain people who lack creativity for themselves, meh. Chasing stuff and experience was feeling a bit repetitive before covid. The space from people made me accept it.
dv_dt 5y ago
Hmm doesn’t this inherently build in a general failure mode of cloud subscription validation going offline. Seems like a great opening for aftermarket integration devices - like no subscription remote start.
darthrupert 5y ago
Title is missing a crucial word: remotely.
- WWLink 5y ago
  The title does point out that remote start is with the RF keyfob your car came with. It's funny because cars have had that feature for years and never got a subscription or internet connectivity involved to use it.
celeduc 5y ago
Toyota bet on hydrogen and lost. Now they're doing subtractive marketing on the remote controls which modern carmakers have eliminated altogether.
nicbou 5y ago
This makes me happy to have an older car. I paid for it in cash. The fanciest tech on it is ABS and fuel injection. I tried new cars recently, and they're tethered to the manufacturer by subscription services, short-lived tech, amd a dependency on dealerships. It's weird to pay so much for something that is not yours.

23 points by gabea 5y ago

This concept isn't new. OnStar a third party service has been providing this for cars for a long time. I think a few vehicle manufacturers have bundled OnStar in the past, maybe Cadillac, Buick, GMC, maybe Chevy? I want to say there were others as well. They can remotely unlock or lock your vehicle, send medical and law enforcement to your location, detect if you were in an accident, do hands-free calling for help. Now I sound like one of their old commercials. OnStar handles key fobs remotely too.

electric_muse 5y ago

“You’ll own nothing and be happy” https://web.archive.org/web/20200919112906/https://twitter.com/wef/status/799632174043561984 https://web.archive.org/web/20200919112906/https://twitter.c... Really taken to a new level

thoraway66 5y ago
Yeah because belief is truth Also Nostradamus was correct about the end of the world Jesus turned water into wine It’s almost as if humans have a track record of gullible belief and superstition about the truth embedded in their social ways I have a MacBook and iPhone for work. My own imagination is quite fertile. Except for the big utilitarian projects, I really don’t need other people. If the grind is just to entertain people who lack creativity for themselves, meh. Chasing stuff and experience was feeling a bit repetitive before covid. The space from people made me accept it.

dv_dt 5y ago

Hmm doesn’t this inherently build in a general failure mode of cloud subscription validation going offline. Seems like a great opening for aftermarket integration devices - like no subscription remote start.

darthrupert 5y ago

Title is missing a crucial word: remotely.

WWLink 5y ago
The title does point out that remote start is with the RF keyfob your car came with. It's funny because cars have had that feature for years and never got a subscription or internet connectivity involved to use it.

celeduc 5y ago

Toyota bet on hydrogen and lost. Now they're doing subtractive marketing on the remote controls which modern carmakers have eliminated altogether.

nicbou 5y ago

This makes me happy to have an older car. I paid for it in cash. The fanciest tech on it is ABS and fuel injection. I tried new cars recently, and they're tethered to the manufacturer by subscription services, short-lived tech, amd a dependency on dealerships. It's weird to pay so much for something that is not yours.