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I use rsync.net and borgmatic[1] backing up about a terrabyte. It's about the same price as S3 (with no egress charges, cheaper if you use just their Borg plan[

I use rsync.net and borgmatic[1] backing up about a terrabyte. It's about the same price as S3 (with no egress charges, cheaper if you use just their Borg plan[2]) and you can backup a multitude of ways from rsync to zfs snapshots. It's not as user friendly as something with a GUI but IMO anyone on HN should be able to get it working in about 30 mins. 1. https://torsion.org/borgmatic/ https://torsion.org/borgmatic/ 2. https://rsync.net/products/attic.html https://rsync.net/products/attic.html

neilv 5y ago
Borgmatic (or plain Borg) to rsync.net is appealing. One thing to notice about the super-affordable Borg plan is that it doesn't include free ZFS snapshots. My understanding is that you can have the SSH key used by the host to push its backup restricted to only Borg, and only append-only, within its repo... but if there's another way to access the ZFS (e.g., with an unrestricted SSH key), the Borg repo could be deleted. And then you might really want automatic ZFS snapshots as an additional layer of protection.
- deadbunny 5y ago
  This is true. However rsync.net/borgmatic is my 3rd tier backup and Borg does the versioning/retention rather than zfs. 1. I have local zfs snapshots on my machine(s) 2. These get sent to my home NAS 3. They are then sent to a NAS I have at a friend's house 4. Then Borgmatic does it's thing to rsync.net This covers my needs, I could upgrade to the full plan but if I need to be going to rsync.net shit has already hit the fan.
- rsync 5y ago
  "One thing to notice about the super-affordable Borg plan is that it doesn't include free ZFS snapshots." To clarify - it doesn't include free ZFS snapshots. You can configure and use them but we count them towards your quota. If your data doesn't change much, they won't use up much space ...
  - neilv 5y ago
    Thanks, that rsync.net Borg plan looks like a great deal.

neilv 5y ago

Borgmatic (or plain Borg) to rsync.net is appealing. One thing to notice about the super-affordable Borg plan is that it doesn't include free ZFS snapshots. My understanding is that you can have the SSH key used by the host to push its backup restricted to only Borg, and only append-only, within its repo... but if there's another way to access the ZFS (e.g., with an unrestricted SSH key), the Borg repo could be deleted. And then you might really want automatic ZFS snapshots as an additional layer of protection.

deadbunny 5y ago
This is true. However rsync.net/borgmatic is my 3rd tier backup and Borg does the versioning/retention rather than zfs. 1. I have local zfs snapshots on my machine(s) 2. These get sent to my home NAS 3. They are then sent to a NAS I have at a friend's house 4. Then Borgmatic does it's thing to rsync.net This covers my needs, I could upgrade to the full plan but if I need to be going to rsync.net shit has already hit the fan.
rsync 5y ago
"One thing to notice about the super-affordable Borg plan is that it doesn't include free ZFS snapshots." To clarify - it doesn't include free ZFS snapshots. You can configure and use them but we count them towards your quota. If your data doesn't change much, they won't use up much space ...
- neilv 5y ago
  Thanks, that rsync.net Borg plan looks like a great deal.