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> https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores > access to political rights and civil libert
by yonixw 5y ago
> https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores
> access to political rights and civil liberties
> Score: United States 83, Iran 16
I guess their hands are a little bit dirtier than the USA
- 1cvmask 5y agoAnd the source is the orwellian named freedomhouse which is funded by the US government. I am sure there is an Iranian funded organization that would have opposite scores. Freedomhouse was founded by Eleanor Roosevelt whose husband was for lynching of blacks and refused (as did his successor Truman) to ban lynchings as a federal crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_House https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_House
- yonixw 5y agoAre US+UK (that are ranked far above) governments all in on some conspiracy? that you are allowed to dismiss the findings to the point that Iran might actually be better in any sense? I guess North Korea might also be heaven on earth, but it is the media that stops us from getting the truth. /s
- tablespoon 5y ago> And the source is the orwellian named freedomhouse which is funded by western governments. What is that even supposed to mean, besides being a content-free casting of aspersions? > I am sure there is an Iranian funded organization that would have opposite scores. And to do so honestly, they'd have to evaluate according to very different set of values (e.g. an "Islamic values index").
- creato 5y agoThe Roosevelts on lynching: > Eleanor Roosevelt, however, lent the NAACP her open support and consulted regularly with Walter White about strategies in the Capital. She urged her husband and his White House advisers to back the cause, but the administration gave only tacit encouragement rather than offend southern Democrats who largely controlled both houses of Congress through committee chairmanships. The NAACP bill passed the House in 1937 and in 1940, but the customary alliance of northern conservative Republicans and southern segregationist Democrats stopped its progress in the Senate. https://www.encyclopedia.com/economics/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/anti-lynching-legislation https://www.encyclopedia.com/economics/encyclopedias-almanac... Truman on lynching: > A specific Federal measure is needed to deal with the crime of lynching—against which I cannot speak too strongly. It is a principle of our democracy, written into our Constitution, that every person accused of an offense against the law shall have a fair, orderly trial in an impartial court. We have made great progress toward this end, but I regret to say that lynching has not yet finally disappeared from our land. So long as one person walks in fear of lynching, we shall not have achieved equal justice under law. I call upon the Congress to take decisive action against this crime. https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1948-harry-s-truman-special-message-congress-civil-rights-2/ https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1948-harr... Your name is basically synonymous with bullshit to me on HN. Every now and then I bother to check.
- 1cvmask 5y agoRegarding Truman: In September 23, 1946, Robeson and a delegation representing the ACAL met with President Harry Truman to push for an anti-lynching agenda. Robeson demanded that Truman issue a public statement expressing his views on lynching and recommending a set of legislative and educational measures aimed at eradicating mob violence. Truman turned down these requests, claiming that timing and political circumstances made these measures difficult to implement at the moment. Robeson was disappointed by this and found it troubling that the US government was at the time willing to actively engage in the Nuremberg Trials while it turned its head from racial injustices at home.[5] Delegations also met with US Attorney General Tom Clark as well as the Democratic and Republican national committees. The delegation's program included the creation of a federal anti-lynching bill, arrest and punishment for all lynchers, and preventing Ku Klux Klan members from joining Congress.[6] Many prominent intellectuals were members, including Albert Einstein.[7] Other notable supporters of the organization were Max Yergan, Joseph Curran, Canada Lee, Jack Kroll, Lena Horne, and Oscar Hammerstein II.[8] The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had been long concerned about socialist and communist movements for their instigation of social and labor unrest. Having noted communist support for African-American civil rights before World War II, the FBI characterized the "Crusade" as a "communist front." Robeson and the ACAP were thus both put under investigation by the FBI.[9] The FBI classified members such as Einstein as communist sympathizers; and developed intelligence files on them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Crusade_Against_Lynching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Crusade_Against_Lynch... Regarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt (note I wrote whose husband): https://www.aier.org/article/how-fdr-killed-federal-anti-lynching-legislation/ https://www.aier.org/article/how-fdr-killed-federal-anti-lyn... https://www.history.com/news/fdr-eleanor-roosevelt-anti-lynching-bill https://www.history.com/news/fdr-eleanor-roosevelt-anti-lync... And the Ken Burns documentary on the Roosevelts if you have 6 hours to spare https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-roosevelts/ https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-roosevelts/
- tablespoon 5y ago> Regarding Truman: > In September 23, 1946, Robeson and a delegation representing the ACAL met with President Harry Truman to push for an anti-lynching agenda. Robeson demanded that Truman issue a public statement expressing his views on lynching and recommending a set of legislative and educational measures aimed at eradicating mob violence. Truman turned down these requests, claiming that timing and political circumstances made these measures difficult to implement at the moment. You make it sounds like he didn't so anything, but the GP comment you're responding to shows that he did what they were requesting about a year after they asked: https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1948-harry-s-truman-special-message-congress-civil-rights-2/ https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1948-harr...: > By 1947 the question of black civil rights in the South had become a national issue when a committee President Harry S. Truman appointed to study the issue called for legislation which among other things would to protect voting rights for Southern blacks and provide federal protection against lynching. In response to the report President Truman sent a special message to Congress on the issue on February 2, 1948. That message, the first by a sitting president to address the question of black civil rights, appears below. Sounds a lot like a "public statement expressing his views on lynching and recommending a set of legislative and educational measures aimed at eradicating mob violence", no? Did you even scan, let alone read, the link you were responding to?
- simonblack 5y agoWho worked out those scores? "Freedom House is a non-profit, non-governmental organization in Washington, D.C., that conducts research and advocacy on democracy, political freedom, and human rights. ... The organization was 66% funded by grants from the U.S. government in 2006, a number which has increased to 86% in 2016."
- lostmsu 5y agoDo you doubt any particular part of the data? Funding source is only relevant if you can show it intentionally wrongdo funding previously.