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Post pc has nothing to do with windows

13 points by playhard 15y ago

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- slowpoke 15y ago
  Please stop calling using an iPhone (or similar devices and closed systems) "computing". It's playing around, nothing more. Someone else here on HN summed it up beautifully in a similar debate: if something isn't capable of general purpose computing, it's not a computer. The future of computing therefore does not lie in closed systems or toys like the iPad. Basta. (I'm not an old man waving my cane, by the way. I loved the concept of tablets way before the iPad - I blame Stargate Atlantis :) )
  - macavity23 15y ago
    How is it not 'computing'? The iPad runs programs, with threads, and stacks, and filehandles pointing to files. It runs what is basically Unix, fer chrissakes! All these components are hidden from the user, it is true. They're hidden from mainframe users too, and mainframes are just as closed as the iPad if not more so; does that stop them being computers? Maybe it's just computing you don't like?
    - slowpoke 15y ago
      How is it not 'computing'? The iPad runs programs, with threads, and stacks, and filehandles pointing to files. It runs what is basically Unix, fer chrissakes! Your dodging the issue. Can I do general purpose computing with an iPad? Can I run arbitrary code and programs provided I can compile them? No, I can't. Ergo, it isn't a computer. If people take offense in me calling the iPad (and similar devices) 'toys', then I apologize - as I said, I actually like the concept of tablets. They are communication devices with the ability to run specific programs. Still doesn't make them computers, though, and much less are they the "future of computing".
pointyhat 15y ago
Maybe for Joe Bloggs who uses their "computer toaster" for the usual purposes: Facebook, email, twitter, music, movies, pr0n and being a good little consumer. However, those of us who really NEED to do work on a machine, it'll never cut it and neither will the cloud. If it goes closed everywhere, I'm out.
zmmmmm 15y ago
> there aren’t any other tablets that are worth a damn There's almost a smell of desperation in how determined the Apple centered blogosphere is to ignore or write off Android / Honeycomb right now. I went to a workshop the other day, the score was three Transformers to one iPad; ASUS just upped their estimates recently to 800,000 per quarter. A colleague at work told me her husband was getting one. He just wanted something different from the iPad. I'm not claiming they are anything like competition for the iPad yet in a market sense. They are a niche obsession, mainly among geeks. But the Galaxy Tab - thinner, lighter, better screen than the iPad? So good Apple is suing in panic to stop it before it even hits the shelves? "Not worth a damn"? Come on MG ...
ap22213 15y ago
I love the form factor of my ipad, but realistically, it's nothing more than a media reader to me. With my bluetooth keyboard, it gets about 5-10% better. But, for it to become my laptop replacement, it would need an entirely new operating system. Its current OS is just a toy, as far as I'm concerned. Of course - I realize that 80% of the population aren't doing 'computing' - they're mainly viewing media with a few edits here and there.
- cgrand-net 15y ago
  iOS isn't that much a toy if you consider it as the OS of an inout/output device (aka a dumb terminal).
beej71 15y ago
"I’m writing this on my laptop (a MacBook Air), but I really just want to be browsing the web on my iPad right now." So... why aren't we blogging on our iPad? I call BS on this "post PC" thing. The iPad is not the right tool for every job.

13 points by playhard 15y ago

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slowpoke 15y ago
Please stop calling using an iPhone (or similar devices and closed systems) "computing". It's playing around, nothing more. Someone else here on HN summed it up beautifully in a similar debate: if something isn't capable of general purpose computing, it's not a computer. The future of computing therefore does not lie in closed systems or toys like the iPad. Basta. (I'm not an old man waving my cane, by the way. I loved the concept of tablets way before the iPad - I blame Stargate Atlantis :) )
- macavity23 15y ago
  How is it not 'computing'? The iPad runs programs, with threads, and stacks, and filehandles pointing to files. It runs what is basically Unix, fer chrissakes! All these components are hidden from the user, it is true. They're hidden from mainframe users too, and mainframes are just as closed as the iPad if not more so; does that stop them being computers? Maybe it's just computing you don't like?
  - slowpoke 15y ago
    How is it not 'computing'? The iPad runs programs, with threads, and stacks, and filehandles pointing to files. It runs what is basically Unix, fer chrissakes! Your dodging the issue. Can I do general purpose computing with an iPad? Can I run arbitrary code and programs provided I can compile them? No, I can't. Ergo, it isn't a computer. If people take offense in me calling the iPad (and similar devices) 'toys', then I apologize - as I said, I actually like the concept of tablets. They are communication devices with the ability to run specific programs. Still doesn't make them computers, though, and much less are they the "future of computing".

pointyhat 15y ago

Maybe for Joe Bloggs who uses their "computer toaster" for the usual purposes: Facebook, email, twitter, music, movies, pr0n and being a good little consumer. However, those of us who really NEED to do work on a machine, it'll never cut it and neither will the cloud. If it goes closed everywhere, I'm out.

zmmmmm 15y ago

> there aren’t any other tablets that are worth a damn There's almost a smell of desperation in how determined the Apple centered blogosphere is to ignore or write off Android / Honeycomb right now. I went to a workshop the other day, the score was three Transformers to one iPad; ASUS just upped their estimates recently to 800,000 per quarter. A colleague at work told me her husband was getting one. He just wanted something different from the iPad. I'm not claiming they are anything like competition for the iPad yet in a market sense. They are a niche obsession, mainly among geeks. But the Galaxy Tab - thinner, lighter, better screen than the iPad? So good Apple is suing in panic to stop it before it even hits the shelves? "Not worth a damn"? Come on MG ...

ap22213 15y ago

I love the form factor of my ipad, but realistically, it's nothing more than a media reader to me. With my bluetooth keyboard, it gets about 5-10% better. But, for it to become my laptop replacement, it would need an entirely new operating system. Its current OS is just a toy, as far as I'm concerned. Of course - I realize that 80% of the population aren't doing 'computing' - they're mainly viewing media with a few edits here and there.

cgrand-net 15y ago
iOS isn't that much a toy if you consider it as the OS of an inout/output device (aka a dumb terminal).

beej71 15y ago

"I’m writing this on my laptop (a MacBook Air), but I really just want to be browsing the web on my iPad right now." So... why aren't we blogging on our iPad? I call BS on this "post PC" thing. The iPad is not the right tool for every job.