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Are you in support of radically changing laws around home ownership, potentially to the point of abolishing housing as an investment vehicle? Because you need t

Are you in support of radically changing laws around home ownership, potentially to the point of abolishing housing as an investment vehicle? Because you need to either support that, or support people making wages enough to own a home even if that home is radically expensive due to other influences. Anything less is Scrooge levels of sociopathy.

rkk3 5y ago
I definitely am in favor of changing laws around making it easier to build & develop new-housing. I can't afford to purchase these radically inflated assets myself... but if you want to call me scrooge because I don't think owning a multi-million dollar house is a fundamental human right, go ahead.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  No one’s saying it’s a fundamental human right, just something a teach should be able to do if he/she teaches in an area that exclusively has multi-million dollar homes.
  - rkk3 5y ago
    Like I said previously, Teachers salaries in SF aren't even at question in the cited article. A custodian employed by sf makes an average of 92k [1] vs an average teacher in SF makes 75.6k [2]. But I can still simultaneously believe teachers are underpaid and at the same think they aren't entitled to multi-million dollar homes. [1] https://www.openthebooks.com/forbes-why-san-francisco-is-in-trouble--19000-highly-compensated-city-employees-earned-150000-in-pay--perks/ https://www.openthebooks.com/forbes-why-san-francisco-is-in-... [2] https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/public-school-teacher-salary/san-francisco-ca https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/public-scho...
    - nikanj 5y ago
      Does the question substantially change if you replace teacher with custodian? Should custodians be able to afford the community they work in?
      - rkk3 5y ago
        If you'll pay me 150k to be a custodian again or however much to afford to purchase a million dollar home I'll take it in a heart beat. You probably haven't but I've actually been a custodian, and besides the pay I found it much a more enjoyable experience than working in tech.
smegger001 5y ago
honestly yes. Turning housing into a financial vehicle makes it hard for average people to afford. Housing cant simultaneously be affordable perpetually for average citizens and a investment expected to appreciate in value higher than inflation. trying to have our cake and eat it to has broken the housing market and been the root cause of much suffering and the last big economic rescission.

rkk3 5y ago

I definitely am in favor of changing laws around making it easier to build & develop new-housing. I can't afford to purchase these radically inflated assets myself... but if you want to call me scrooge because I don't think owning a multi-million dollar house is a fundamental human right, go ahead.

vineyardmike 5y ago
No one’s saying it’s a fundamental human right, just something a teach should be able to do if he/she teaches in an area that exclusively has multi-million dollar homes.
- rkk3 5y ago
  Like I said previously, Teachers salaries in SF aren't even at question in the cited article. A custodian employed by sf makes an average of 92k [1] vs an average teacher in SF makes 75.6k [2]. But I can still simultaneously believe teachers are underpaid and at the same think they aren't entitled to multi-million dollar homes. [1] https://www.openthebooks.com/forbes-why-san-francisco-is-in-trouble--19000-highly-compensated-city-employees-earned-150000-in-pay--perks/ https://www.openthebooks.com/forbes-why-san-francisco-is-in-... [2] https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/public-school-teacher-salary/san-francisco-ca https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/public-scho...
  - nikanj 5y ago
    Does the question substantially change if you replace teacher with custodian? Should custodians be able to afford the community they work in?
    - rkk3 5y ago
      If you'll pay me 150k to be a custodian again or however much to afford to purchase a million dollar home I'll take it in a heart beat. You probably haven't but I've actually been a custodian, and besides the pay I found it much a more enjoyable experience than working in tech.

smegger001 5y ago

honestly yes. Turning housing into a financial vehicle makes it hard for average people to afford. Housing cant simultaneously be affordable perpetually for average citizens and a investment expected to appreciate in value higher than inflation. trying to have our cake and eat it to has broken the housing market and been the root cause of much suffering and the last big economic rescission.