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Malware is subjective, as everyone who's made any new executable and sent it to a friend knows as Defender immediately destroys the program and quarantines it.

by judge2020 5y ago

Malware is subjective, as everyone who's made any new executable and sent it to a friend knows as Defender immediately destroys the program and quarantines it. Surely many, many people are willing to pay the price of running this anti-cheat that 'runs in the background' (not consuming many resources, mind you - the vgc executable isn't constantly running, only vgtray which is the tray icon and it's sitting at 640K), so this obviously isn't malware to them.

syspec 5y ago
At 640k it's using all the available ram any computer would ever need
jevoten 5y ago
> Malware is subjective Torrent programs get silently deleted, LibreOffice and other FOSS installers get big scary warnings [1], installing an open-source audio package pops up no less than seven warning screens [2], but Riot can install a literal rootkit to only a single "this program will make changes to your computer" notification, in a friendly blue color. It's painfully obvious Microsoft is looking out for its own interests, and those of its corporate partners, instead of their users, when they subjectively determine what is malware. [1] https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/microsoft-defender-leads-the-user-to-assume-free-and-open-source-software-is-malicious-with-scary-red-warnings/ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/microsoft-defender-... [2] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/05/windows_10_microsoft_defender_smartscreen/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/05/windows_10_microsoft_...
- judge2020 5y ago
  It's not a rootkit, it's a kernel-level driver. The same goes for any other driver that can be installed via just UAC - for example, Corsair installs their kernel driver[0] and cpu-z as well[1]. 0: https://i.judge.sh/illegal/Tempest/InstalledDriversList_HbYVoId9Nd.png https://i.judge.sh/illegal/Tempest/InstalledDriversList_HbYV... 1: https://i.judge.sh/fickle/Aloe/InstalledDriversList_7NIthyI6dM.png https://i.judge.sh/fickle/Aloe/InstalledDriversList_7NIthyI6...
  - mantaraygun 5y ago
    > It's not a rootkit, it's a kernel-level driver. That's like saying "It's not a vehicle, it's a truck."

syspec 5y ago

At 640k it's using all the available ram any computer would ever need

jevoten 5y ago

> Malware is subjective Torrent programs get silently deleted, LibreOffice and other FOSS installers get big scary warnings [1], installing an open-source audio package pops up no less than seven warning screens [2], but Riot can install a literal rootkit to only a single "this program will make changes to your computer" notification, in a friendly blue color. It's painfully obvious Microsoft is looking out for its own interests, and those of its corporate partners, instead of their users, when they subjectively determine what is malware. [1] https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/microsoft-defender-leads-the-user-to-assume-free-and-open-source-software-is-malicious-with-scary-red-warnings/ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/13/microsoft-defender-... [2] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/05/windows_10_microsoft_defender_smartscreen/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/05/windows_10_microsoft_...

judge2020 5y ago
It's not a rootkit, it's a kernel-level driver. The same goes for any other driver that can be installed via just UAC - for example, Corsair installs their kernel driver[0] and cpu-z as well[1]. 0: https://i.judge.sh/illegal/Tempest/InstalledDriversList_HbYVoId9Nd.png https://i.judge.sh/illegal/Tempest/InstalledDriversList_HbYV... 1: https://i.judge.sh/fickle/Aloe/InstalledDriversList_7NIthyI6dM.png https://i.judge.sh/fickle/Aloe/InstalledDriversList_7NIthyI6...
- mantaraygun 5y ago
  > It's not a rootkit, it's a kernel-level driver. That's like saying "It's not a vehicle, it's a truck."