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Slightly off topic, but it's fun to see company culture reflected in the algorithm behaviour. There are thousands of clips of Tesla's Fatal Self Driving being

Slightly off topic, but it's fun to see company culture reflected in the algorithm behaviour. There are thousands of clips of Tesla's Fatal Self Driving being far too aggressive for American roads (https://nitter.net/taylorogan/status/1469404579439824899 https://nitter.net/taylorogan/status/1469404579439824899). Meanwhile, companies like AutoX have the problem of being far too conservative for Asian roads (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=TFEvkmvIjVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=TFEvkmvIjVo). AutoX has some of the best edge case handling I've seen.

intrasight 5y ago
This I've long thought the be the Achilles' heel of autonomous. Even skilled human drivers have a hard time calibrating their style to the local situation. I remember the first time I drove as a passenger through Manhattan with my father driving, and couldn't get my head around his change in driving style. Was a side of him I'd never seen before - driving aggressively like a cab driver. I'm sure it came from his years of living in NYC.
- wpietri 5y ago
  For sure. Driving on a test track is a technical problem. Driving in traffic is a social problem. As you noted, how one drives in traffic is not just about getting somewhere, but about communicating and negotiating with other drivers around you. It's one of the things that makes me think that true self-driving may be in the AGI bucket.
  - capnhawkbill 5y ago
    If all the cars would be autonomous then this problem would be solved because they would all keep the same driving style right?
    - wpietri 5y ago
      Not at all. You really think somebody wouldn't program their cars to be more aggressive so that their owners get there faster?
      - intrasight 5y ago
        I think there will have to be a NYC mode
- ec109685 5y ago
  Learning the appropriate driving style for a neighborhood / city seems like one of the easier AI problems for Tesla to solve.

intrasight 5y ago

This I've long thought the be the Achilles' heel of autonomous. Even skilled human drivers have a hard time calibrating their style to the local situation. I remember the first time I drove as a passenger through Manhattan with my father driving, and couldn't get my head around his change in driving style. Was a side of him I'd never seen before - driving aggressively like a cab driver. I'm sure it came from his years of living in NYC.

wpietri 5y ago
For sure. Driving on a test track is a technical problem. Driving in traffic is a social problem. As you noted, how one drives in traffic is not just about getting somewhere, but about communicating and negotiating with other drivers around you. It's one of the things that makes me think that true self-driving may be in the AGI bucket.
- capnhawkbill 5y ago
  If all the cars would be autonomous then this problem would be solved because they would all keep the same driving style right?
  - wpietri 5y ago
    Not at all. You really think somebody wouldn't program their cars to be more aggressive so that their owners get there faster?
    - intrasight 5y ago
      I think there will have to be a NYC mode
ec109685 5y ago
Learning the appropriate driving style for a neighborhood / city seems like one of the easier AI problems for Tesla to solve.