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> If a normal recent laptop Apparently, 80% of recent laptops are engineered for web browsing and very light office workloads, even regardless on their price.

> If a normal recent laptop Apparently, 80% of recent laptops are engineered for web browsing and very light office workloads, even regardless on their price. Despite the CPUs are generally good, they don’t usually install enough RAM in them. It started to change recently, half of the new ones have 16GB RAM which is good for development at the moment. But that wasn’t the case in 2016 when Intel released Kaby Lake CPUs the OP has. > agreeing with OP that the situation is awful? I looked at WinUI3 not long ago, and didn’t like it too much. I wouldn’t call the situation “awful”, but it’s not good either, neither for OP nor Microsoft. The Windows GUI software I develop for living is often based on WPF. I think it’s superior despite much older: amount of bugs, quality of tools, binary size, etc. Fortunately for the OP, WPF is still supported in latest versions of .NET and Visual Studio, and is very likely to stay that way.

vixalien 5y ago
I guess I could use WPF but I want to build a shiny Windows 11 app using the new controls
- Const-me 5y ago
  Neither WPF nor WinUI are using OS controls for most of their GUI. Their GUI is defined by styles and templates in various XAML files. You can make controls look however you like. Microsoft did a great job back then re-implementing UX of WinXP and Win7 on top of WPF, but unfortunately not the newer Windows versions. Here’s a third-party project with styles and templates implementing GUI similar to Win10: https://github.com/Kinnara/ModernWpf https://github.com/Kinnara/ModernWpf Their approach seems correct, and the screenshots looking nice. I never needed that library BTW, my clients who need good GUI usually provide professionally-made design which is unrelated to Windows controls. Also, here’s a relevant GitHub issue https://github.com/dotnet/wpf/issues/5793 https://github.com/dotnet/wpf/issues/5793 which currently says “.NET 7.0 milestone”, however the 7.0 is scheduled for November 2022, i.e. in about 1 year, and they may or may not deliver by then.

vixalien 5y ago

I guess I could use WPF but I want to build a shiny Windows 11 app using the new controls

Const-me 5y ago
Neither WPF nor WinUI are using OS controls for most of their GUI. Their GUI is defined by styles and templates in various XAML files. You can make controls look however you like. Microsoft did a great job back then re-implementing UX of WinXP and Win7 on top of WPF, but unfortunately not the newer Windows versions. Here’s a third-party project with styles and templates implementing GUI similar to Win10: https://github.com/Kinnara/ModernWpf https://github.com/Kinnara/ModernWpf Their approach seems correct, and the screenshots looking nice. I never needed that library BTW, my clients who need good GUI usually provide professionally-made design which is unrelated to Windows controls. Also, here’s a relevant GitHub issue https://github.com/dotnet/wpf/issues/5793 https://github.com/dotnet/wpf/issues/5793 which currently says “.NET 7.0 milestone”, however the 7.0 is scheduled for November 2022, i.e. in about 1 year, and they may or may not deliver by then.