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> The irony of bashing open source... This is literally the 'yet you participate in society' argument.

dnautics 5y ago
Sure, you don't have the option of not using open source software for some of the cisco and arista switches and routers on nexthops over the internet, but you certainly CAN use paid-for closed-source software (from operating system up to webserver) on a server that you set up, in a colo that you pay for, to run your blog.
gtsop 5y ago
No, this is a falacy. As a living being you don't really stand any chance of not participating in society in some way or another. However the author has the following options: - pay for proprietary stack of technology to publish their website - pay for the open source software they are using (donate) - not do any websites and publish their opinion on other social media or even physical print. Write a papper, print flyers - do literally nothing All of these are actual viable options. Not participating in society kinda isn't an option if you wanna live
- badsectoracula 5y ago
  Is it even possible to completely avoid open source software nowadays though? Windows itself might not be completely open source but it has a bunch of open source components and/or is based on open source components (even the TCP/IP stack has its roots on BSD :-P). Even your CPU (especially Intel with its IME using Minix) and UEFI might have some open source code. Perhaps if you find some 20 year old PC with an obscure proprietary operating system that has its own network stack you could do it. Though that "proprietary purity" will break down as soon as you step out of that PC box and connect it to a router or whatever since chances are it will run open source software and your purely proprietary signal will be contaminated way before reaching some end user's browser :-P
  - gtsop 5y ago
    You're most likely right, but my argument has been misinterpreted in a classic fashion. I never implied that they should have used open source at all. I said that they used a bunch of open source software that I doubt they had ever paid for (even donating).

Sure, you don't have the option of not using open source software for some of the cisco and arista switches and routers on nexthops over the internet, but you certainly CAN use paid-for closed-source software (from operating system up to webserver) on a server that you set up, in a colo that you pay for, to run your blog.

gtsop 5y ago

No, this is a falacy. As a living being you don't really stand any chance of not participating in society in some way or another. However the author has the following options: - pay for proprietary stack of technology to publish their website - pay for the open source software they are using (donate) - not do any websites and publish their opinion on other social media or even physical print. Write a papper, print flyers - do literally nothing All of these are actual viable options. Not participating in society kinda isn't an option if you wanna live

badsectoracula 5y ago
Is it even possible to completely avoid open source software nowadays though? Windows itself might not be completely open source but it has a bunch of open source components and/or is based on open source components (even the TCP/IP stack has its roots on BSD :-P). Even your CPU (especially Intel with its IME using Minix) and UEFI might have some open source code. Perhaps if you find some 20 year old PC with an obscure proprietary operating system that has its own network stack you could do it. Though that "proprietary purity" will break down as soon as you step out of that PC box and connect it to a router or whatever since chances are it will run open source software and your purely proprietary signal will be contaminated way before reaching some end user's browser :-P
- gtsop 5y ago
  You're most likely right, but my argument has been misinterpreted in a classic fashion. I never implied that they should have used open source at all. I said that they used a bunch of open source software that I doubt they had ever paid for (even donating).