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Exactly. There's really not a way to make it easy. Web is the best UI dev method, that's why electron became popular.

shaan7 5y ago
Best is a strong word. Just because something is popular does not mean it is the best. It is the cheapest/easiest (for developers), I have to agree.
captainmuon 5y ago
I found VB6 really easy. Draw buttons on a form, double click, write code behind. There was also a huge ecosystem of components you could use. Delphi was similar in spirit. I've also found Python + Gtk (in the Python 2 and Gtk 2 days) very simple and productive. There are a ton of problems that you have in webdev that don't neccessarily exist in a local app. Mostly from the fact that you have state everywhere, in the client, on the server, and in the database, and you have to manage it asyncronously. React helps with it a bit, but in principle a desktop app can be "100% frontend" (I mean you still have something like MVC, but you don't have a separate server or a sandbox for window js where you have to communicate).
- School-Cotton 5y ago
  > Draw buttons on a form, double click, write code behind If my memory serves, this is also how WinForms worked.
- spaniard89277 5y ago
  Lazarus does that too.
- bluedino 5y ago
  One problem with VB is you still have to know C/C++ to extend it
datavirtue 5y ago
LMAO!! Web is by far the worst UI development experience to date. Only a committee with a twisted hate of developers could invent something worse. You obviously were not building apps twenty-five years ago when all this shit was figured out and super easy. The web hit and people took it to it's logical conclusion. Twenty-five years later we are still trying to figure out the best way. Angular is highly refined but still a clusterfuck. I build web apps professionally. It's not good and not really getting better unless better means bundling a browser with my app. Face in hands.

Best is a strong word. Just because something is popular does not mean it is the best. It is the cheapest/easiest (for developers), I have to agree.

captainmuon 5y ago

I found VB6 really easy. Draw buttons on a form, double click, write code behind. There was also a huge ecosystem of components you could use. Delphi was similar in spirit. I've also found Python + Gtk (in the Python 2 and Gtk 2 days) very simple and productive. There are a ton of problems that you have in webdev that don't neccessarily exist in a local app. Mostly from the fact that you have state everywhere, in the client, on the server, and in the database, and you have to manage it asyncronously. React helps with it a bit, but in principle a desktop app can be "100% frontend" (I mean you still have something like MVC, but you don't have a separate server or a sandbox for window js where you have to communicate).

School-Cotton 5y ago
> Draw buttons on a form, double click, write code behind If my memory serves, this is also how WinForms worked.
spaniard89277 5y ago
Lazarus does that too.
bluedino 5y ago
One problem with VB is you still have to know C/C++ to extend it

datavirtue 5y ago

LMAO!! Web is by far the worst UI development experience to date. Only a committee with a twisted hate of developers could invent something worse. You obviously were not building apps twenty-five years ago when all this shit was figured out and super easy. The web hit and people took it to it's logical conclusion. Twenty-five years later we are still trying to figure out the best way. Angular is highly refined but still a clusterfuck. I build web apps professionally. It's not good and not really getting better unless better means bundling a browser with my app. Face in hands.