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And the amount of people is just ridiculous, why 8 billion? When was this stablished to be the right amount? Why not -lets say- 1 billion and destroy the planet

And the amount of people is just ridiculous, why 8 billion? When was this stablished to be the right amount? Why not -lets say- 1 billion and destroy the planet much much less?

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Because a combination of women not having the ability to say no to sex and people liking sex. Women’s financial independence and IUD/vasectomies/birth control pills are relatively new, and still only available to a small portion of the population.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  Surprisingly, about three condoms per year are made for every fertile male in the world.
r3trohack3r 5y ago
I don’t want to live in a society where someone can establish an ideal population size. Free humans making their decision one birth at a time establish population sizes.
- DFHippie 5y ago
  There's a difference between deciding an ideal population size and enforcing it. Also, there are different ways of enforcing it, many involving little that we would term coercion: establishing child tax credits, for example; funding schools and healthcare via mechanisms which make raising children more or less burdensome. Free people can react to these incentives via their own free choice while society at large, acting as a collective of free people, decide what these incentives should be. The incentives established by other people's choices are inevitable unless you want to go live like the Martian.
- cbshsjsh 5y ago
  I am totally okay with free humans making their own decisions but I don’t want to financially support their decisions. I believe if society collectively pay for someone’s kids schooling or other expenses then society should be able to determine what is ideal number of children and punish (financially) those who take more than their fair share.
- mattigames 5y ago
  I don't want to live in a society that expands without limits and causes its own destruction in a few centuries instead of one that could live many millenniums if it figured out not to self-destroy by unbounded replication; but hey different strokes for different folks.

And the amount of people is just ridiculous, why 8 billion? When was this stablished to be the right amount? Why not -lets say- 1 billion and destroy the planet much much less?

lotsofpulp 5y ago

Because a combination of women not having the ability to say no to sex and people liking sex. Women’s financial independence and IUD/vasectomies/birth control pills are relatively new, and still only available to a small portion of the population.

mensetmanusman 5y ago
Surprisingly, about three condoms per year are made for every fertile male in the world.

r3trohack3r 5y ago

I don’t want to live in a society where someone can establish an ideal population size. Free humans making their decision one birth at a time establish population sizes.

DFHippie 5y ago
There's a difference between deciding an ideal population size and enforcing it. Also, there are different ways of enforcing it, many involving little that we would term coercion: establishing child tax credits, for example; funding schools and healthcare via mechanisms which make raising children more or less burdensome. Free people can react to these incentives via their own free choice while society at large, acting as a collective of free people, decide what these incentives should be. The incentives established by other people's choices are inevitable unless you want to go live like the Martian.
cbshsjsh 5y ago
I am totally okay with free humans making their own decisions but I don’t want to financially support their decisions. I believe if society collectively pay for someone’s kids schooling or other expenses then society should be able to determine what is ideal number of children and punish (financially) those who take more than their fair share.
mattigames 5y ago
I don't want to live in a society that expands without limits and causes its own destruction in a few centuries instead of one that could live many millenniums if it figured out not to self-destroy by unbounded replication; but hey different strokes for different folks.