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I'm English and I think this list is terrible. It won't help you understand this country except for the narrow section of opinion that went mad after the Brexit

I'm English and I think this list is terrible. It won't help you understand this country except for the narrow section of opinion that went mad after the Brexit vote. I won't make an alternative list but reading The Pickwick Papers will give more profit than this whole list.

Veen 5y ago
Yes, this list is really focused on "why Britain has always been crap and is even crapper after Brexit". A genre that has become ubiquitous in recent years. It's almost entirely composed of books and articles written by anti-Brexit Guardian and Indie writers.
- LightG 5y ago
  "... crapper after Brexit". Well, looking around ... that element of the statement is 100% correct. Looking to emigrate from this sinking ship.
  - Veen 5y ago
    Things are certainly a bit crap at the moment—there is a global pandemic on, after all. But I find the constant "post Brexit, ergo propter Brexit" stuff tiresome and tendentious. I voted Remain, but Brexit is done and now we have to get on with things. I'm not sure it's any better in the U.S. or France—there's a good chance France is about to vote for a president that makes Boris look reasonable by comparison, for example. Scandinavia might be nice if you're looking to turn your back on your country, but there's no guarantee they'll take you.
    - LightG 5y ago
      I take your point, but the "you do realise there is a global pandemic on" take I hear often is also tiresome. I'm experiencing first-hand, in our business, the hassles and challenges that have come with Brexit (during a global pandemic) and I genuinely just throw my hands up and say "WTF were we thinking". I'm considering New Zealand. Slightly cliche in tech circles now, I know, but I spent a year there 10 years ago and looking to go back now. Note, this is my down-slope plan. I don't need to be in the traditional centres of business. I'm not trying to disrupt tech or earn a billy! And, with respect, I don't consider this my country. Plenty of lovely people here, and I feel for them, but the place has gone off the deep end.

Veen 5y ago

Yes, this list is really focused on "why Britain has always been crap and is even crapper after Brexit". A genre that has become ubiquitous in recent years. It's almost entirely composed of books and articles written by anti-Brexit Guardian and Indie writers.

LightG 5y ago
"... crapper after Brexit". Well, looking around ... that element of the statement is 100% correct. Looking to emigrate from this sinking ship.
- Veen 5y ago
  Things are certainly a bit crap at the moment—there is a global pandemic on, after all. But I find the constant "post Brexit, ergo propter Brexit" stuff tiresome and tendentious. I voted Remain, but Brexit is done and now we have to get on with things. I'm not sure it's any better in the U.S. or France—there's a good chance France is about to vote for a president that makes Boris look reasonable by comparison, for example. Scandinavia might be nice if you're looking to turn your back on your country, but there's no guarantee they'll take you.
  - LightG 5y ago
    I take your point, but the "you do realise there is a global pandemic on" take I hear often is also tiresome. I'm experiencing first-hand, in our business, the hassles and challenges that have come with Brexit (during a global pandemic) and I genuinely just throw my hands up and say "WTF were we thinking". I'm considering New Zealand. Slightly cliche in tech circles now, I know, but I spent a year there 10 years ago and looking to go back now. Note, this is my down-slope plan. I don't need to be in the traditional centres of business. I'm not trying to disrupt tech or earn a billy! And, with respect, I don't consider this my country. Plenty of lovely people here, and I feel for them, but the place has gone off the deep end.