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Any treatment should be considered a scam until proven effective. Chinese medicine gets people to drink urine. A Shaman spits alcohol on people. A witch doctor

Any treatment should be considered a scam until proven effective. Chinese medicine gets people to drink urine. A Shaman spits alcohol on people. A witch doctor conjures spells. None can be considered effective until proven effective. "Proven effective" means. 1) Follows the reliable method, results are published 2) The experiment can be verified and replicated by anyone anywhere anytime. That is the difference between the scientific method (So called "western medicine") and scams. Summarizing: A fungus can be medicine, when proven effective. The older you state Chinese medicine is, the worse for its cause. So much time to show proof of effectiveness, so little they can prove.

justicezyx 5y ago
> Chinese medicine gets people to drink urine In extreme cases, this happens. And we also know that a lot of high impact cancer research results cannot be reproduced. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03691-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03691-0 And Chinese medicine for the most part is a discipline for nurturing human body through natural produces and elements for self healing. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/chinese-medicine https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi... It does not have scientific methods. The modern Chinese medicine is adopting scientific methods. https://academic.oup.com/bib/article/15/6/984/180255 https://academic.oup.com/bib/article/15/6/984/180255 Condescending argument are not wrong, they are just logically imprecise. And can easily provoke negative emotions to your readers.
jazzyjackson 5y ago
it’s not my intention to convince you that all traditional medicine is effective, just that some traditional medicine is effective, and testing the methods used by herbalists yields more results than starting from scratch in a chemistry lab (tho of course the chemistry lab comes in handy to isolate and eventually synthesize the molecules that are found to be effective) You say “So little they can prove” but I’m saying they have proven a lot, and non-western medicine just becomes western by virtue of being adaquatelty studied. We may be agreeing more than you think. “Plants, People, and Culture: The Science of Ethnobotany” is an excellent book on the topic.

justicezyx 5y ago

> Chinese medicine gets people to drink urine In extreme cases, this happens. And we also know that a lot of high impact cancer research results cannot be reproduced. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03691-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03691-0 And Chinese medicine for the most part is a discipline for nurturing human body through natural produces and elements for self healing. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/chinese-medicine https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi... It does not have scientific methods. The modern Chinese medicine is adopting scientific methods. https://academic.oup.com/bib/article/15/6/984/180255 https://academic.oup.com/bib/article/15/6/984/180255 Condescending argument are not wrong, they are just logically imprecise. And can easily provoke negative emotions to your readers.

jazzyjackson 5y ago

it’s not my intention to convince you that all traditional medicine is effective, just that some traditional medicine is effective, and testing the methods used by herbalists yields more results than starting from scratch in a chemistry lab (tho of course the chemistry lab comes in handy to isolate and eventually synthesize the molecules that are found to be effective) You say “So little they can prove” but I’m saying they have proven a lot, and non-western medicine just becomes western by virtue of being adaquatelty studied. We may be agreeing more than you think. “Plants, People, and Culture: The Science of Ethnobotany” is an excellent book on the topic.