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Strong disagree. The suggestion that they could be lying is what is under question in this comment chain. And, certainly, they could be, informed not only by ge

by R0b0t1 5y ago

Strong disagree. The suggestion that they could be lying is what is under question in this comment chain. And, certainly, they could be, informed not only by general life experience but directly by the threads about Amazon management culture that pop up. If professionals don't lie then why do doctors get popped for writing bad prescriptions? Why did scientists and executives lie about the harms of tobacco or lead? Etc. What is being fought here is the suggestion that Amazon and its workers have some drive to tell the truth. Common sense dictates that is false. Keep in mind an Amazon employee could have flagged my comment out of self interest.

dang 5y ago
Sorry, but your GP comment was obviously unsubstantive flamebait. This isn't a borderline call. If you have some specific information to add to the discussion, by all means post it (in an informative way, not a provocative way). But definitely please don't post like the above. Even your reply here is nothing but rhetoric. Edit: I just noticed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29427506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29427506. Posting like that ("please consider offing as many CBP officials as possible") is very obviously a bannable offense on HN. I won't ban you for a week-old comment now, but if you do anything like that again, we will have to. Actually that comment is so shocking that I really had to think about this for a while. But you've also posted quite a lot of good comments in the past, so perhaps it will suffice to ask you to please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on.
- R0b0t1 5y ago
  I don't want to waste your time with this, but: I can accept that perhaps I should have added more context, but if all I was responding to was "(they aren't lying because) they are professionals" it seems fine to say "professionals can lie." In the broader discussion happening here it looks like people are mad at the mere suggestion that Amazon could be behaving in a way that is not in the best interests of their customers (and that the moderators are baseless coming to Amazon's defence). I'm open for waiting for more evidence, but the evidence we do have right now seems to justify most of the comments that are not obviously low effort. You can ban me for whatever you want, but calling for the death of officials that violate rights is protected speech. Calling for the death of a specific individual is usually not. By retaining my comment you are not privy to any illegal behavior. I've seen what bad cops can do. You can too if you look now. Voting doesn't seem to work. Can't vote when they've already killed you, anyway. Just in my personal experience we had some local cop that was ordering drugs online for who knows what -- could be planting them on innocent people -- and nothing came of it despite the reports filed. I'd like to remain on the site as I draw great enjoyment from it. Guess I'll stay away from political topics.

by R0b0t1 5y ago

dang 5y ago

Sorry, but your GP comment was obviously unsubstantive flamebait. This isn't a borderline call. If you have some specific information to add to the discussion, by all means post it (in an informative way, not a provocative way). But definitely please don't post like the above. Even your reply here is nothing but rhetoric. Edit: I just noticed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29427506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29427506. Posting like that ("please consider offing as many CBP officials as possible") is very obviously a bannable offense on HN. I won't ban you for a week-old comment now, but if you do anything like that again, we will have to. Actually that comment is so shocking that I really had to think about this for a while. But you've also posted quite a lot of good comments in the past, so perhaps it will suffice to ask you to please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on.

R0b0t1 5y ago
I don't want to waste your time with this, but: I can accept that perhaps I should have added more context, but if all I was responding to was "(they aren't lying because) they are professionals" it seems fine to say "professionals can lie." In the broader discussion happening here it looks like people are mad at the mere suggestion that Amazon could be behaving in a way that is not in the best interests of their customers (and that the moderators are baseless coming to Amazon's defence). I'm open for waiting for more evidence, but the evidence we do have right now seems to justify most of the comments that are not obviously low effort. You can ban me for whatever you want, but calling for the death of officials that violate rights is protected speech. Calling for the death of a specific individual is usually not. By retaining my comment you are not privy to any illegal behavior. I've seen what bad cops can do. You can too if you look now. Voting doesn't seem to work. Can't vote when they've already killed you, anyway. Just in my personal experience we had some local cop that was ordering drugs online for who knows what -- could be planting them on innocent people -- and nothing came of it despite the reports filed. I'd like to remain on the site as I draw great enjoyment from it. Guess I'll stay away from political topics.