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> people getting head injuries when getting zapped is pretty common This scares the shit out of me, more than getting shot by a cop. Cops use tasers a lot mo

> people getting head injuries when getting zapped is pretty common This scares the shit out of me, more than getting shot by a cop. Cops use tasers a lot more freely than guns, very frequently using them when there is no plausible threat to themselves or anybody else. They're allowed to get away with it because tasers are "less lethal." All it takes is one bad fall to turn you into a brain scrambled imbecile who can't tie your own shoelaces anymore but much of the public doesn't seem to understand this and are unsympathetic to these sort of concerns. At least with guns, people understand the gravity of the matter.

techdragon 5y ago
This is why I’m kind of surprised to see the use of stunners (taser with out the gun part, and usually with longer, usually spring loaded for safety, electrical contacts, yea you have to be closer. But you also are now in range to ensure the delivery of the electric shock and to grab them in order to ensure they don’t hurt themselves when they collapse. Walk in arms up doing the de-escalation stuff and then if shit hits the fan try and quick draw the stunner and jab them in the chest like it’s a knife. Just as non-leather as a taser but with much less risk of injuries to the person being shocked and also much less risk of failing to work since up close making physical contact is something you can train someone to do well, no inherent inaccuracies involved.
- GravitasFailure 5y ago
  Stun guns are pain compliance weapons and won't incapacitate like a Taser will. They do have their place, and like you said give you more control over placement, but can be completely useless against people that don't care about pain because of adrenaline or drugs.
  - techdragon 5y ago
    Oh your right about adrenaline and drugs changing the effectiveness, but I could have sworn they made stun guns that were designed to function as takedown devices exactly how tasers are.
    - GravitasFailure 5y ago
      They will disrupt muscles the same, but the contacts are only a few cm apart and apply voltage for a second or two while a proper Taser will send the current through several hundred cm for 5 to 30 seconds. They're in completely different leagues.

techdragon 5y ago

This is why I’m kind of surprised to see the use of stunners (taser with out the gun part, and usually with longer, usually spring loaded for safety, electrical contacts, yea you have to be closer. But you also are now in range to ensure the delivery of the electric shock and to grab them in order to ensure they don’t hurt themselves when they collapse. Walk in arms up doing the de-escalation stuff and then if shit hits the fan try and quick draw the stunner and jab them in the chest like it’s a knife. Just as non-leather as a taser but with much less risk of injuries to the person being shocked and also much less risk of failing to work since up close making physical contact is something you can train someone to do well, no inherent inaccuracies involved.

GravitasFailure 5y ago
Stun guns are pain compliance weapons and won't incapacitate like a Taser will. They do have their place, and like you said give you more control over placement, but can be completely useless against people that don't care about pain because of adrenaline or drugs.
- techdragon 5y ago
  Oh your right about adrenaline and drugs changing the effectiveness, but I could have sworn they made stun guns that were designed to function as takedown devices exactly how tasers are.
  - GravitasFailure 5y ago
    They will disrupt muscles the same, but the contacts are only a few cm apart and apply voltage for a second or two while a proper Taser will send the current through several hundred cm for 5 to 30 seconds. They're in completely different leagues.