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I mean, that message is a threat: "Hey employees, this isn't some petition.org type thing, you sign that paper and there are legal ramifications." How many pe

by lbotos 5y ago

I mean, that message is a threat: "Hey employees, this isn't some petition.org type thing, you sign that paper and there are legal ramifications." How many people do you think will read that and hesitate?

cronix 5y ago
Hopefully everyone hesitates and reads legal contracts. Why is "hesitation" a bad thing here? Even if you fully agree with the sentiments of the goal, it's still obligatory to read the legalese in the damn thing and understand what it means for your life. I find all sorts of things in contracts I don't agree with, and they require careful reading and sometimes outside legal opinion. Had I not, I would have been barred from the niche industry I work in for 5 years after completing a contract job.
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notahacker 5y ago
Many people will read it and hesitate, which is the purpose of the email. Which still doesn't make it a threat. They're warning about something the piece of paper does, not something Blizzard might do (and employees actually signing up for the right reason - a belief that the CWA will negotiate much better terms than they've been able to negotiate themselves - should be able to dismiss that warning with the same eyeroll they dismiss all the fluff at the beginning about the things Blizzard does for its staff without a union). It's "We think X wont help you in the way you think it might [although we're obviously biased here] but it's your decision and we couldn't stop you even if we wanted to" not "If X, the consequences will be punishment"
- wombatpm 5y ago
  Blizzard is running the typical anti union playbook. IF a certain threshold of cards are signed, a vote can be held. The best way to prevent a union is prevent the vote
- kcplate 5y ago
  If I was a top value/productivity employee, I damn sure wouldn’t want my ability to walk in my boss’s office and negotiate a raise taken from me. Union organization drives are good at communicating all the “possible” positives that the union can provide…there tends to be some daylight between the possible and the probable. It’s not the 1880s and it’s not like Blizzard employees are pouring hot metal in cramped factories 16 hours a day with zero safety considerations.

by lbotos 5y ago

cronix 5y ago

Hopefully everyone hesitates and reads legal contracts. Why is "hesitation" a bad thing here? Even if you fully agree with the sentiments of the goal, it's still obligatory to read the legalese in the damn thing and understand what it means for your life. I find all sorts of things in contracts I don't agree with, and they require careful reading and sometimes outside legal opinion. Had I not, I would have been barred from the niche industry I work in for 5 years after completing a contract job.

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notahacker 5y ago

Many people will read it and hesitate, which is the purpose of the email. Which still doesn't make it a threat. They're warning about something the piece of paper does, not something Blizzard might do (and employees actually signing up for the right reason - a belief that the CWA will negotiate much better terms than they've been able to negotiate themselves - should be able to dismiss that warning with the same eyeroll they dismiss all the fluff at the beginning about the things Blizzard does for its staff without a union). It's "We think X wont help you in the way you think it might [although we're obviously biased here] but it's your decision and we couldn't stop you even if we wanted to" not "If X, the consequences will be punishment"

wombatpm 5y ago
Blizzard is running the typical anti union playbook. IF a certain threshold of cards are signed, a vote can be held. The best way to prevent a union is prevent the vote
kcplate 5y ago
If I was a top value/productivity employee, I damn sure wouldn’t want my ability to walk in my boss’s office and negotiate a raise taken from me. Union organization drives are good at communicating all the “possible” positives that the union can provide…there tends to be some daylight between the possible and the probable. It’s not the 1880s and it’s not like Blizzard employees are pouring hot metal in cramped factories 16 hours a day with zero safety considerations.