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Sitting at a computer interacting with a non-red HAL9000 and IRC is not the same as interacting with directors, producers, other actors.. people There are more

by corobo 5y ago

Sitting at a computer interacting with a non-red HAL9000 and IRC is not the same as interacting with directors, producers, other actors.. people There are more people in acting than the audience POV: you're a streamer interacting with the audience https://cdn.imgy.org/j6km.jpg https://cdn.imgy.org/j6km.jpg (chat unrelated, I just picked the one in my follows that would fill the screen quickest) idk it just doesn't feel social to me at all, never mind socially demanding

wpietri 5y ago
Sorry, I'm not getting it. Are you a successful streamer and are offering your own experience as evidence? Or are you a non-streamer just giving your general take? You make my point with that screenshot. The chat isn't unrelated. The chat is primary. The streamers I talked to and the streaming I've watched is a performance for an audience. It's way more interactive than most live theater, even the stuff with audience participation. And it's leaps and bounds more socially demanding than film work. As an example, watch this video from a streamer with 120k followers on Twitch: https://twitter.com/negaoryx/status/1354147400160403457 https://twitter.com/negaoryx/status/1354147400160403457 While playing the game she is deeply involved a conversation with the people watching. As streamers explained it to me, that's key to the economics of being a successful streamer, in that significant audience segments are buying a feeling of being in the in-group, and that feeling has to be supported with actual interaction with the streamer. I agree that's not the same thing as being on the same stage with people. But it's still very social. Similarly, remote work is still social. I've never met any of my colleagues, for example, but they're still people to me.
- corobo 5y ago
  > Are you a successful streamer and are offering your own experience as evidence? Or are you a non-streamer just giving your general take? Given the two options I'm a non-streamer giving my general take.

by corobo 5y ago

wpietri 5y ago

Sorry, I'm not getting it. Are you a successful streamer and are offering your own experience as evidence? Or are you a non-streamer just giving your general take? You make my point with that screenshot. The chat isn't unrelated. The chat is primary. The streamers I talked to and the streaming I've watched is a performance for an audience. It's way more interactive than most live theater, even the stuff with audience participation. And it's leaps and bounds more socially demanding than film work. As an example, watch this video from a streamer with 120k followers on Twitch: https://twitter.com/negaoryx/status/1354147400160403457 https://twitter.com/negaoryx/status/1354147400160403457 While playing the game she is deeply involved a conversation with the people watching. As streamers explained it to me, that's key to the economics of being a successful streamer, in that significant audience segments are buying a feeling of being in the in-group, and that feeling has to be supported with actual interaction with the streamer. I agree that's not the same thing as being on the same stage with people. But it's still very social. Similarly, remote work is still social. I've never met any of my colleagues, for example, but they're still people to me.

corobo 5y ago
> Are you a successful streamer and are offering your own experience as evidence? Or are you a non-streamer just giving your general take? Given the two options I'm a non-streamer giving my general take.