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>I doubt any theories of “the media” having anything to gain from conspiring against the country Aside from your sweeping and snide remarks on Americans, this

by throwaway20875 5y ago

>I doubt any theories of “the media” having anything to gain from conspiring against the country Aside from your sweeping and snide remarks on Americans, this is a woefully naive take. The US derives a lot of its power through the global monetary system. It can essentially isolate an entire country from large segments of global trade by simply sanctioning it (severing SWIFT transactions and threatening any banks with loss of settlement/SWIFT access/penalties for dealing with the country). Most of global trade is settled in dollars and a lot of reserves are held in dollars. The US exports dollars. The US takes advantage of those circumstances for its own benefit and seeks to preserve this system. BTC doesn't really pose a threat (not enough of it, slow throughput, too volatile). Further, the US has a long history of interfering in South America (United Fruit, for example). Or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... Bottom line: There is clear incentives for the US to have its way in El Salvador and elsewhere. There is also a clear track record of the US doing anything it can, legal or illegal, to achieve its desired outcomes in South America. Leveraging a largely US based mega-corporate-owned media to assist in those endeavors is only natural (and blithely dismissed by midwits like yourself). The president of El Salvador has disrespected the empire, so El Salvador delenda est.

KarlKemp 5y ago
The snide remarks against Americans are essential for my point; Even if the media had those interests and ability to coordinate, their efforts are directed at an audience, and that audience needs to care for anything further to happen. And unless you find oil or Muslims in El Sal, they don’t and won’t.
ABeeSea 5y ago
Aside from your sweeping and snide remarks on journalists, this is a woefully naive take.
JKCalhoun 5y ago
I'm not doubting your point that the U.S. has both the incentive and track record to interfere with El Salvador. How do you back up your suggestion that the media is being controlled by U.S. interests, that there is collusion on the part of the media and U.S. government?
- throwaway20875 5y ago
  There are clear conflicts of interests between an independent press and the press being owned by large corporate entities. Aside from that, note the revolving door and cozy relationship between the intelligence arm of the government and media: William Brennan - CIA to MSNBC James Clapper - NSA to CNN Michael Hayden - NSA to CNN Asha Rangappa - FBI to CNN Chuck Rosenberg - DEA to MSNBC The above are just a few, and clearly a new flavor of the military/intelligence industrial complex. Then consider that the Washington Post is owned by an individual that has also competed for billions of CIA and NSO business (going back many years before 2020): https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multib... Or consider the overt yellow journalism that was used to justify invasion of Iraq in 2003 - the New York Times was one of the most culpable outlets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War#Criticisms_of_pro-invasion_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War...
  - dundarious 5y ago
    You’re right about all of that, and most people really don’t know the extent of corporate and security state capture in US “free press”… but it’s pretty useless as a defense of BTC policy in El Salvador, or as a critique of this article.
    - throwaway20875 5y ago
      There is no defense of BTC inherent to my point, quite the contrary. BTC is largely irrelevant. What's relevant is that this leader in a South American country has thumbed his nose at the empire and the empire will seek to undermine him through all means at its disposal, media hit pieces included.
      - dundarious 5y ago
        How is being a BTC bro thumbing one's nose at empire? The winners from any kind of successful BTC movement will overwhelmingly be just a slightly different set of private, unaccountable, economically (and hence politically) powerful people, who are even more ideologically predisposed to libertarian fairy tales. BTC success in El Salvador would be a defeat for the vast majority of the populace, and a non-event for empire, except maybe to be used as a model to repeat elsewhere.

KarlKemp 5y ago

The snide remarks against Americans are essential for my point; Even if the media had those interests and ability to coordinate, their efforts are directed at an audience, and that audience needs to care for anything further to happen. And unless you find oil or Muslims in El Sal, they don’t and won’t.

ABeeSea 5y ago

Aside from your sweeping and snide remarks on journalists, this is a woefully naive take.

JKCalhoun 5y ago

I'm not doubting your point that the U.S. has both the incentive and track record to interfere with El Salvador. How do you back up your suggestion that the media is being controlled by U.S. interests, that there is collusion on the part of the media and U.S. government?

throwaway20875 5y ago
There are clear conflicts of interests between an independent press and the press being owned by large corporate entities. Aside from that, note the revolving door and cozy relationship between the intelligence arm of the government and media: William Brennan - CIA to MSNBC James Clapper - NSA to CNN Michael Hayden - NSA to CNN Asha Rangappa - FBI to CNN Chuck Rosenberg - DEA to MSNBC The above are just a few, and clearly a new flavor of the military/intelligence industrial complex. Then consider that the Washington Post is owned by an individual that has also competed for billions of CIA and NSO business (going back many years before 2020): https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multib... Or consider the overt yellow journalism that was used to justify invasion of Iraq in 2003 - the New York Times was one of the most culpable outlets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War#Criticisms_of_pro-invasion_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War...
- dundarious 5y ago
  You’re right about all of that, and most people really don’t know the extent of corporate and security state capture in US “free press”… but it’s pretty useless as a defense of BTC policy in El Salvador, or as a critique of this article.
  - throwaway20875 5y ago
    There is no defense of BTC inherent to my point, quite the contrary. BTC is largely irrelevant. What's relevant is that this leader in a South American country has thumbed his nose at the empire and the empire will seek to undermine him through all means at its disposal, media hit pieces included.
    - dundarious 5y ago
      How is being a BTC bro thumbing one's nose at empire? The winners from any kind of successful BTC movement will overwhelmingly be just a slightly different set of private, unaccountable, economically (and hence politically) powerful people, who are even more ideologically predisposed to libertarian fairy tales. BTC success in El Salvador would be a defeat for the vast majority of the populace, and a non-event for empire, except maybe to be used as a model to repeat elsewhere.