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>so if they do well on leetcode you just assume they did well in their past jobs. wat? how did you draw that crazy conclusion? even competitive programmers sa

>so if they do well on leetcode you just assume they did well in their past jobs. wat? how did you draw that crazy conclusion? even competitive programmers says that there's probably negative correlation between good engineer and competitive programmer and I'm saying this as a person who doesn't mind having to solve algo questions

Jensson 5y ago
> even competitive programmers says that there's probably negative correlation between good engineer and competitive programmer They don't. I've worked with some of the best competitive programmers in the world, they do think it is a positive and look for people with a strong competitive programming background. However, if your interview process only selects for ability to solve algorithm problems, then people with a lot of practice solving algorithm problems will over perform relative their level of talent, so when you run a dumb regression analysis it might look like competitive programming experience is a negative signal. So if someone has competitive programming experience then you want to bring them in for an interview, but you should probably be harder on them in the interview than regular candidates to account for this effect.
- tester756 5y ago
  >They don't. I've worked with some of the best competitive programmers in the world, they do think it is a positive and look for people with a strong competitive programming background. That's fair I'm unable to find what I've been reading, probably some thread on spoj (edit I found this [1]) or this https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/17302 https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/17302 for now I only found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rykKLcduI&t=435s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rykKLcduI&t=435s by https://codeforces.com/profile/Errichto https://codeforces.com/profile/Errichto _____________________ [1] - https://discuss.spoj.com/t/spoj-a-praca-i-zycie/26380 https://discuss.spoj.com/t/spoj-a-praca-i-zycie/26380 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOJ Title: SPOJ & work and life It's written in Polish, but as I see that was about kinda different thing >How were SPOJ and programming skills useful in the context of your studies? >Virtually not at all. I will say more - these skills were an obstacle in obtaining the title of engineer. ><rant about higher edu institution> >... >How useful are SPOJ and specific, classic algorithms at the programmer's work? >Wandering around the labor market, I got the impression that it was easier to become a programmer with a vague idea of algorithms and extensive experience in creating specific projects than being a master of all kinds of algorithms, but without experience in coding something bigger. So the point was kinda different than I remember _____________________

Jensson 5y ago

> even competitive programmers says that there's probably negative correlation between good engineer and competitive programmer They don't. I've worked with some of the best competitive programmers in the world, they do think it is a positive and look for people with a strong competitive programming background. However, if your interview process only selects for ability to solve algorithm problems, then people with a lot of practice solving algorithm problems will over perform relative their level of talent, so when you run a dumb regression analysis it might look like competitive programming experience is a negative signal. So if someone has competitive programming experience then you want to bring them in for an interview, but you should probably be harder on them in the interview than regular candidates to account for this effect.

tester756 5y ago
>They don't. I've worked with some of the best competitive programmers in the world, they do think it is a positive and look for people with a strong competitive programming background. That's fair I'm unable to find what I've been reading, probably some thread on spoj (edit I found this [1]) or this https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/17302 https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/17302 for now I only found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rykKLcduI&t=435s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rykKLcduI&t=435s by https://codeforces.com/profile/Errichto https://codeforces.com/profile/Errichto _____________________ [1] - https://discuss.spoj.com/t/spoj-a-praca-i-zycie/26380 https://discuss.spoj.com/t/spoj-a-praca-i-zycie/26380 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOJ Title: SPOJ & work and life It's written in Polish, but as I see that was about kinda different thing >How were SPOJ and programming skills useful in the context of your studies? >Virtually not at all. I will say more - these skills were an obstacle in obtaining the title of engineer. ><rant about higher edu institution> >... >How useful are SPOJ and specific, classic algorithms at the programmer's work? >Wandering around the labor market, I got the impression that it was easier to become a programmer with a vague idea of algorithms and extensive experience in creating specific projects than being a master of all kinds of algorithms, but without experience in coding something bigger. So the point was kinda different than I remember _____________________