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Many Americans (uniformed or not) like yourself really do have a bloodlust about them. Just itching for the day when they can legally get away with shooting som

Many Americans (uniformed or not) like yourself really do have a bloodlust about them. Just itching for the day when they can legally get away with shooting somebody. This discusion of de-escalation tactics (ridiculed by a US deligation) is rather enlightening. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/rcglza/us_delegates_discuss_police_scotland_deescalation/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/rcglza/us_delegat...

dash2 5y ago
Humans have bloodlust. Let's not chaffer in national stereotypes.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  Humans have bloodlust, and many other urges. Societies decide whether to encourage these, or not.
  - dash2 5y ago
    Sure. While the US has a higher murder rate than most (say) European countries, its overall rate of violent crime is lower than many European countries. For example it has fewer police-recorded assaults than Britain, Israel, Germany, Finland, Chile, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Iceland, Australia, Portugal and France. So, the explanation for the US' high murder rate is perhaps less likely to be "they encourage bloodlust" and more likely to be "they make it very easy to own guns". https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan...
    - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
      > less "they encourage bloodlust" and more "they make it very easy to own guns" I agree entirely, but frankly it's a distinction without a difference.
- tomcooks 5y ago
  Humans have bloodlust, some make a fuss out of having to keep that in check for the sake of everyone else.
johncolanduoni 5y ago
As someone who has de-escalated threats up to and including a knife to the throat (and never pointed a gun at anyone), you’re kidding yourself if you see no reason but bloodlust to want to have the upper hand instead of being at the mercy of a completely unbalanced person you’re trying to talk down.
dang 5y ago
Yikes - nationalistic flamebait like this will get you banned on HN, regardless of which country you have a problem with. No matter how right you are on the underlying issue, or feel you are, you can't set HN threads aflame like this. We want just the opposite here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

dash2 5y ago

Humans have bloodlust. Let's not chaffer in national stereotypes.

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
Humans have bloodlust, and many other urges. Societies decide whether to encourage these, or not.
- dash2 5y ago
  Sure. While the US has a higher murder rate than most (say) European countries, its overall rate of violent crime is lower than many European countries. For example it has fewer police-recorded assaults than Britain, Israel, Germany, Finland, Chile, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Iceland, Australia, Portugal and France. So, the explanation for the US' high murder rate is perhaps less likely to be "they encourage bloodlust" and more likely to be "they make it very easy to own guns". https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan...
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    > less "they encourage bloodlust" and more "they make it very easy to own guns" I agree entirely, but frankly it's a distinction without a difference.
tomcooks 5y ago
Humans have bloodlust, some make a fuss out of having to keep that in check for the sake of everyone else.

johncolanduoni 5y ago

As someone who has de-escalated threats up to and including a knife to the throat (and never pointed a gun at anyone), you’re kidding yourself if you see no reason but bloodlust to want to have the upper hand instead of being at the mercy of a completely unbalanced person you’re trying to talk down.

dang 5y ago

Yikes - nationalistic flamebait like this will get you banned on HN, regardless of which country you have a problem with. No matter how right you are on the underlying issue, or feel you are, you can't set HN threads aflame like this. We want just the opposite here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.