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>> There is a reason why clinical doctors have an abnormally high suicide rate in the US. > Source needed on this claim. Might be true. I’m skeptical though. H
by DanBC 5y ago
>> There is a reason why clinical doctors have an abnormally high suicide rate in the US.
> Source needed on this claim. Might be true. I’m skeptical though. High relative to what?
It's a persistent misunderstanding of the data, pushed mostly by doctors or people who don't know where to find the data but also by the complexity of understanding suicide.
Firstly, every death is a tragedy and we should be looking at suicide as mostly preventable. Doctors are highly educated, well paid, and tied into local healthcare systems. These should be protective factors. So we should see lower rates of death by suicide in this group. Both of these mean that the rate of death in doctors is too high, and should be reduced.
The "relative to what?" part should be "to other professionals, such as lawyers or architects". And sure, compared to those groups we see doctors have a higher rate of death, and that's worrying because of the protective factors that should be present. (This is mostly because female doctors have a higher rate of death by suicide than women in general.) In healthcare we see nurses and other female care givers have higher rates than doctors.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6903a1-H.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6903a1-H.pdf
> In 2017, nearly 38,000 persons of working age (16–64 years) in the United States died by suicide, which represents a 40% rate increase (12.9 per 100,000 population in 2000 to 18.0 in 2017) in less than 2 decades.* To inform suicide prevention, CDC analyzed suicide data by industry and occupation among working-age decedents presumed to be employed at the time of death from the 32 states participating in the 2016 National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS). †,§
> Compared with rates in the total study population, suicide rates were significantly higher in five major industry groups: 1) Mining, Quarrying, and Oil and Gas Extraction (males); 2) Construction (males); 3) Other Services (e.g., automotive repair) (males); 4) Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing, and Hunting (males); and 5) Transportation and Warehousing (males and females). Rates were also significantly higher in six major occupational groups: 1) Construction and Extraction (males and females); 2) Installation, Maintenance, and Repair (males); 3) Arts, Design, Entertainment, Sports, and Media (males); 4) Transportation and Material Moving (males and females); 5) Protective Service (females); and 6) Healthcare Support (females).
- conanbatt 5y agoI would compare it to doctors in other countries as well. I don't think it is a suicide rate tied to the profession itself, but definitely on how it is practiced in the US. It is a gnarly profession though, and health care workers see the ugly side of death and sickness too often to not be affected by it.