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To give some numbers: There are more than 10 millions Streamers on Twitch, of which 5 millions are streaming regularly. The top 10_000 of them earns barely mini

To give some numbers: There are more than 10 millions Streamers on Twitch, of which 5 millions are streaming regularly. The top 10_000 of them earns barely minimum wage or more. The Top 1000-5000 is earning some decent money on middle-class-level and the millionairs-club is around Top 100. And these numbers are globally, meaning all streamers from all countries. So we are still talking about an absurd low number of people.

tinus_hn 5y ago
A service that makes 100 users a millionaire is a low number? And by the way, there is no way to know how much people are really making because they not only get money through Twitch but also through tip systems, merchandise, promotion, sponsors and other revenue generating activities.
- slightwinder 5y ago
  Yes, but the twitch-numbers reflect a streamers potential for earning money through merchandise, promotion, sponsors and other revenue generating activities. There usually is a direct enough link between them. Tipping is a bit more special, but it's quite unlikely that a small 20 viewer-streamer will get a million-dollar-tip regularly. So you can make an educated guess of the general income, at least regarding someone's success as a streamer. Of course it's always possible that someone is far more successful outside of twitch. Like an established celeb who streams without monetization. But I don't think it makes sense to discuss those special cases here.
  - tinus_hn 5y ago
    Yes, the viewer numbers are the direct link. But viewer numbers are not Twitch revenue. Subscriber are Twitch revenue. And it is not at all impossible to have a lot of viewers and not a lot of subscribers. How are you going to know what the stream is earning the musician keeping contact with his fan base?
mbesto 5y ago
Now do this for football players. Over the age of 6: 5.16 million High school: 1 million College: 70k Pro: 1,700 Also a power law distribution.
- ng12 5y ago
  Same for musicians, artists, actors. It's really not abnormal.
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j7ake 5y ago
Now do the numbers with startups. I thought the hackernews community embraces taking risk and doing your own thing. I am surprised to see the conservatism here.

tinus_hn 5y ago

A service that makes 100 users a millionaire is a low number? And by the way, there is no way to know how much people are really making because they not only get money through Twitch but also through tip systems, merchandise, promotion, sponsors and other revenue generating activities.

slightwinder 5y ago
Yes, but the twitch-numbers reflect a streamers potential for earning money through merchandise, promotion, sponsors and other revenue generating activities. There usually is a direct enough link between them. Tipping is a bit more special, but it's quite unlikely that a small 20 viewer-streamer will get a million-dollar-tip regularly. So you can make an educated guess of the general income, at least regarding someone's success as a streamer. Of course it's always possible that someone is far more successful outside of twitch. Like an established celeb who streams without monetization. But I don't think it makes sense to discuss those special cases here.
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  Yes, the viewer numbers are the direct link. But viewer numbers are not Twitch revenue. Subscriber are Twitch revenue. And it is not at all impossible to have a lot of viewers and not a lot of subscribers. How are you going to know what the stream is earning the musician keeping contact with his fan base?

mbesto 5y ago

Now do this for football players. Over the age of 6: 5.16 million High school: 1 million College: 70k Pro: 1,700 Also a power law distribution.

ng12 5y ago
Same for musicians, artists, actors. It's really not abnormal.
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j7ake 5y ago

Now do the numbers with startups. I thought the hackernews community embraces taking risk and doing your own thing. I am surprised to see the conservatism here.