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Personal identity is an endless source of fascination for me and most of Western civilization it seems where "individualism" is important, but Eastern philosoph

Personal identity is an endless source of fascination for me and most of Western civilization it seems where "individualism" is important, but Eastern philosophers say it just a bunch of thoughts, memories and feelings that are transient and can't be said to really exist. But I guess both East and West would agree identity can be anything that we feel fits since it's made up.

kelseyfrog 5y ago
I'm wrapping up Ásta's Categories We Live By[1] and it's been fun learning about models describing the mechanisms which construct social identity and how people agree or disagree on their construction. Using the article as an example, we can see the institutionalization of age as a label though government documents, policy, and law, but there is also a communal construction presumably by way of Ratelband's friends and family celebrating his birthday and keeping track of his age. Even today, people at least self-identify as an age whenever they "lie" about their age to others. Who or what is the ultimate judge of age? Unfortunately I mean this in a technical capacity. Just like an umpire who is the judge of what is a strike or ball in baseball, who is and who do we want to be the judge of age? In a lot of ways self-conferral is the ultimate form of individual liberty. Why would I want someone else enforcing on me properties about myself? 1. https://doi.org/10.1111/ejop.12744 https://doi.org/10.1111/ejop.12744
- okareaman 5y ago
  The link looks interesting. Thanks. Maybe Lewis Carrol's quote about words could be applied to identity as well: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.” Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass

kelseyfrog 5y ago

I'm wrapping up Ásta's Categories We Live By[1] and it's been fun learning about models describing the mechanisms which construct social identity and how people agree or disagree on their construction. Using the article as an example, we can see the institutionalization of age as a label though government documents, policy, and law, but there is also a communal construction presumably by way of Ratelband's friends and family celebrating his birthday and keeping track of his age. Even today, people at least self-identify as an age whenever they "lie" about their age to others. Who or what is the ultimate judge of age? Unfortunately I mean this in a technical capacity. Just like an umpire who is the judge of what is a strike or ball in baseball, who is and who do we want to be the judge of age? In a lot of ways self-conferral is the ultimate form of individual liberty. Why would I want someone else enforcing on me properties about myself? 1. https://doi.org/10.1111/ejop.12744 https://doi.org/10.1111/ejop.12744

okareaman 5y ago
The link looks interesting. Thanks. Maybe Lewis Carrol's quote about words could be applied to identity as well: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.” Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass