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The Navy's $9B Stealthy Super Destroyer Is Covered in Rust

22 points by avalys 5y ago

euroderf 5y ago
Considering the sky-high costs of these kinds of shipbuilding programs, why haven't they yet devised an unmanned scraper/cleaner system for flat surfaces above the waterline ?
holler 5y ago
I just saw this ship while visiting the USS Midway Museum and caught it on film: https://stream.new/v/sXc9wpNxX9NyhNMYeuYfV7y902WIPlYgFshIPrimzyY00 https://stream.new/v/sXc9wpNxX9NyhNMYeuYfV7y902WIPlYgFshIPri... Pretty cool to see, although I didn't capture the tiles in detail to see whether they were rusted.
rbanffy 5y ago
And to think it was once under the command of Captain James Kirk... The navy should have registered as DDG 1701
bob999 5y ago
Who cares just a bit of rust
tschwimmer 5y ago
Nowhere in the article does it provide even speculation about actual operational effect of the rust. Does anyone know if rust as pictured in the article has a detrimental effect to the combat readiness of the ship? That should be far and away the primary concern.
- dangle1 5y ago
  I took away from the article that it's likely merely cosmetic at this point, but concerns have been raised that: 1) The run-down look during peacetime subtracts from the 'gravitas' the ship can communicate to the world and 2) The smaller crew this more automated modern ship has might not be large enough to complete the common scraping and painting maintenance that ships require to stay ahead of rust
  - trevorishere 5y ago
    The rust gives me the Russian submarine fleet vibes, which is unfortunate.
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rkwasny 5y ago
Even US Navy is migrating to Rust? ;-)
simonblack 5y ago
I remember the 90s when people scoffed at the Soviet Navy's rusting fleet. There was no money. Twenty years later, thirty trillion dollars of national debt seems to have caught up with the US Navy's rusting fleet.
JoeyBananas 5y ago
> I'm dead serious when I say this: Operate less. Paint more. We are not at war. When we show up in a place, we should look good. If we don't, we are defeating the purpose of presence. This is a highly misguided take. The idea that the navy is only needed when there is a first class shooting war going on is wrong and frankly stupid. There is currently a new cold war going on and the navy has a lot of work to do. It would be foolish to complain that the navy is spending too much time operating and not enough time chipping and painting because their operations are actually really important and it's their job. Instead, complain that the navy is spending too much money on electromagnetic catapults, the F-35, railguns and the Zumwalts. What the navy needs to do is fix their procurement so they can get some freaking ships with guns that work.
carnitas 5y ago
To be be honest that isn’t that bad. Our ships constantly rust and they are usually prettied up before pulling into port. I’m guessing there was more important work to do

22 points by avalys 5y ago

Considering the sky-high costs of these kinds of shipbuilding programs, why haven't they yet devised an unmanned scraper/cleaner system for flat surfaces above the waterline ?

holler 5y ago

I just saw this ship while visiting the USS Midway Museum and caught it on film: https://stream.new/v/sXc9wpNxX9NyhNMYeuYfV7y902WIPlYgFshIPrimzyY00 https://stream.new/v/sXc9wpNxX9NyhNMYeuYfV7y902WIPlYgFshIPri... Pretty cool to see, although I didn't capture the tiles in detail to see whether they were rusted.

rbanffy 5y ago

And to think it was once under the command of Captain James Kirk... The navy should have registered as DDG 1701

bob999 5y ago

Who cares just a bit of rust

tschwimmer 5y ago

Nowhere in the article does it provide even speculation about actual operational effect of the rust. Does anyone know if rust as pictured in the article has a detrimental effect to the combat readiness of the ship? That should be far and away the primary concern.

dangle1 5y ago
I took away from the article that it's likely merely cosmetic at this point, but concerns have been raised that: 1) The run-down look during peacetime subtracts from the 'gravitas' the ship can communicate to the world and 2) The smaller crew this more automated modern ship has might not be large enough to complete the common scraping and painting maintenance that ships require to stay ahead of rust
- trevorishere 5y ago
  The rust gives me the Russian submarine fleet vibes, which is unfortunate.

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rkwasny 5y ago

Even US Navy is migrating to Rust? ;-)

simonblack 5y ago

I remember the 90s when people scoffed at the Soviet Navy's rusting fleet. There was no money. Twenty years later, thirty trillion dollars of national debt seems to have caught up with the US Navy's rusting fleet.

JoeyBananas 5y ago

> I'm dead serious when I say this: Operate less. Paint more. We are not at war. When we show up in a place, we should look good. If we don't, we are defeating the purpose of presence. This is a highly misguided take. The idea that the navy is only needed when there is a first class shooting war going on is wrong and frankly stupid. There is currently a new cold war going on and the navy has a lot of work to do. It would be foolish to complain that the navy is spending too much time operating and not enough time chipping and painting because their operations are actually really important and it's their job. Instead, complain that the navy is spending too much money on electromagnetic catapults, the F-35, railguns and the Zumwalts. What the navy needs to do is fix their procurement so they can get some freaking ships with guns that work.

carnitas 5y ago

To be be honest that isn’t that bad. Our ships constantly rust and they are usually prettied up before pulling into port. I’m guessing there was more important work to do