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You're acting like the employees were forced into the limos at gunpoint. People have free volition. Offering someone a better opportunity is not remotely 'evil'

You're acting like the employees were forced into the limos at gunpoint. People have free volition. Offering someone a better opportunity is not remotely 'evil'.

Lammy 5y ago
"What's wrong with this country? Can't a man walk down the street without being offered a job‽" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDbvVFffWV4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDbvVFffWV4
- tinalumfoil 5y ago
  In this case it's more like, "can't a CEO walk down the street knowing his employees are safely shielded from better work opportunities"
ozim 5y ago
Is it? Hooker offering good time is still quite evil. Praying on the low instincts of people like simply more pay (even if a lot) -- more pleasure is considered rather evil. Cam girls praying on low self esteem man. Isn't it the same? Throwing money at people who will grab it because they are thirsty? We can argue that Borland developers were underpaid and Borland was evil - because they were used. Again "Is it?". That is just such complex question that I am not proposing an answer...
blagie 5y ago
It's anti-competitive. There's a difference between hiring talent because you want talent, and hiring talent to undermine a smaller competitor. It's an analogous to dumping. That is evil.
- AtlasBarfed 5y ago
  Dumping is basically not enforced, even if it is against the law. Monopolies and cartels are against the law, but not enforced. It is a sad reality of the modern economy, and one of the biggest indicators of who actually runs America. At least in this case workers made money. If borland was losing money, why didn't the execs negotiate a merger if they had so much desirable talent? Hmmmmm, I bet the execs couldn't negotiate a big enough reward for themselves in an acquisition. The limo pickup at lunch strikes me as a big middle finger to Borland's management. Of all of Borland's products that I liked, did I like them because of the software devs or the management? I guess what I want is the borland devs back. I miss Turbo Pascal, DOS or Windows.
- Ansil849 5y ago
  Again...you are acting as if the people being hired are...what? Not humans with free will?
  - blagie 5y ago
    Shoppers buying lower-priced products at a giant retailer moving into a new market are also humans with free will. It's the rational choice. Once the store drives local businesses out, prices go up. That's why this kind of behavior is unlawful.
    - Ansil849 5y ago
      I don't understand your analogy. Are you saying once Microsoft drives Borland out it will...cut salaries?...raise prices?

You're acting like the employees were forced into the limos at gunpoint. People have free volition. Offering someone a better opportunity is not remotely 'evil'.

Lammy 5y ago

"What's wrong with this country? Can't a man walk down the street without being offered a job‽" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDbvVFffWV4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDbvVFffWV4

tinalumfoil 5y ago
In this case it's more like, "can't a CEO walk down the street knowing his employees are safely shielded from better work opportunities"

ozim 5y ago

Is it? Hooker offering good time is still quite evil. Praying on the low instincts of people like simply more pay (even if a lot) -- more pleasure is considered rather evil. Cam girls praying on low self esteem man. Isn't it the same? Throwing money at people who will grab it because they are thirsty? We can argue that Borland developers were underpaid and Borland was evil - because they were used. Again "Is it?". That is just such complex question that I am not proposing an answer...

blagie 5y ago

It's anti-competitive. There's a difference between hiring talent because you want talent, and hiring talent to undermine a smaller competitor. It's an analogous to dumping. That is evil.

AtlasBarfed 5y ago
Dumping is basically not enforced, even if it is against the law. Monopolies and cartels are against the law, but not enforced. It is a sad reality of the modern economy, and one of the biggest indicators of who actually runs America. At least in this case workers made money. If borland was losing money, why didn't the execs negotiate a merger if they had so much desirable talent? Hmmmmm, I bet the execs couldn't negotiate a big enough reward for themselves in an acquisition. The limo pickup at lunch strikes me as a big middle finger to Borland's management. Of all of Borland's products that I liked, did I like them because of the software devs or the management? I guess what I want is the borland devs back. I miss Turbo Pascal, DOS or Windows.
Ansil849 5y ago
Again...you are acting as if the people being hired are...what? Not humans with free will?
- blagie 5y ago
  Shoppers buying lower-priced products at a giant retailer moving into a new market are also humans with free will. It's the rational choice. Once the store drives local businesses out, prices go up. That's why this kind of behavior is unlawful.
  - Ansil849 5y ago
    I don't understand your analogy. Are you saying once Microsoft drives Borland out it will...cut salaries?...raise prices?