2 ms·
> I started asking questions,” the nurse said. “I was told that if we didn’t mark things up like this, insurance companies wouldn’t give us what we want.” > He
by ethbr0 5y ago
> I started asking questions,” the nurse said. “I was told that if we didn’t mark things up like this, insurance companies wouldn’t give us what we want.”
> Healthcare providers routinely ignore the actual cost of treatment when calculating bills and instead cook up nonsensical figures to push reimbursement from insurers higher.
This is the real story of health care, in a nutshell.
Providers say "A procedure costs $100." Insurers say "Great, we'll reimburse you $50 for it, or you won't be in network." Providers say "But it actually costs $100." Insurers say "Fine, but cut us a deal in exchange for our business, and charge us $50." They hammer out a contract that specifies $55 for that procedure.
On the next procedure, which costs $200, the providers (and their facility) stops to think. "Wait, insurance is going to ask for a substantial haircut on whatever number we give them." So providers say "This procedure costs $400." Insurance says "Fine, we'll reimburse you $200." Providers say "Oh no. Fine, we'll take it."
Then a few years later insurance analysts get around to noticing relative cost differences, and the entire dance starts over again.
The fundamental problems with US health care are (1) the lack of end-user (patient) visibility into costs before undertaking a procedure, (2) opaque insurance-facility contracts, & (3) the bullshit dance between facilities, middle people, and insurance companies that end up adding confusion, delay, and costs to what would otherwise be simpler transactions.
- mjevans 5y agoWhich is why I try to vote for politicians that support any kind of single payer / medicare for all / etc healthcare and was so very disappointed with what Obamacare became: just payouts to the established anti-consumer groups as usual.
- jimbob45 5y agoI don't understand your point on #1. What good is visibility going to do me? I have only so many hospitals reasonably distant from me in-network such that competition isn't likely to substantially alter my price, I would think.
- ethbr0 5y agoThe point with visibility is that it's a necessary precondition towards establishing an actual market. Or to put it another way, without it, you certainly can't answer the question "Where is the best deal for my procedure?" But more importantly, you can't even answer "Are my insurer's negotiated rates a good deal for the procedure?"