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> if you actually live in Ghana, I do Me too, since COVID. East Legon, near Blue House (if you know Accra, you know what I mean.) I also, had the good luck to
by dismantlethesun 5y ago
> if you actually live in Ghana, I do
Me too, since COVID. East Legon, near Blue House (if you know Accra, you know what I mean.)
I also, had the good luck to be able to go primary school in Ghana despite being foreign born.
> Ghana does not have a federal system of government.
This is sort of true, sort of not true. Ghana's government wasn't created de novo like some other colonial systems. The US has a 'perfect' federal system since it was created out of whole cloth: states have independent powers, and the central government has different powers. Outside of the US, the question of if a government is federal or not is pretty murky since all governments have to decentralize in someway, and have to at a minimum identify regions within their control.
The Ghanian system was originally modeled after that of the UK, during a time when the UK hadn't devolved any much authority away from the central government. However, what exists today is different in many important ways. First a little background...
The 1957 constitution created the parliament as a mirror image of what the UK has, and included the house of chiefs as a counterpart to the house of lords (and since chiefs play a spiritual role too, you don't need to save any seats for the Lords Spiritual). At the time, chiefs had varying levels of authority depending on how much the Brits liked them, and how far they were from British control. The Ashanti chieftaincy for example was being suppressed heavily. What should have happened is that a further convention would clarify how exactly chiefs fit into the new system.
However, the 1960 constitution came along and neutered the entire parliament. Kwame Nkrumah became the first president, and the post of prime minister was done away with. At the same time, zero authority was given to the chiefs (despite the fact that chiefs continued to own most of the land).
The structure of parliament itself was neglected for many years. Thus, parliament itself has issues that aren't found elsewhere.
Remember 2020? Parliament was going to be divided 50/50 with no ruling party. In a true parliamentary system, the parties negotiate and form a ruling government. However in Ghana's parliament that's impossible; the rules state that 1 party must win!
With all that can we really say that Ghana is a 'perfect' parliamentary system? It's not.
> This statement is definitely incorrect. I have a national ID of the recent type, and there is no reference to a tribe.
The Ghana card requires it. It's called 'HOMETOWN' vs 'place of birth'. If you are a Fanti, and try to say Accra is your hometown they won't accept it. [1]
While it's possible that I'm misremembering the specifics, I just moved here so I had to fill out forms for:
1. Driver’s Licence
2. Voter ID Card
3. SSNIT Biometric Card
4. National Health Insurance Card
5. Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN)
6. Bank Account
7. Passport
As someone who has recently gone through the application process, I know that tribal discussion comes up quite a lot when confirming your identity.
> There is also no requirement to declare a tribe to open a bank account.
As far as I know, it's part of KYC. It's not essential, but some banks will ask for it. Fidelity asks. Ecobank doesn't. Though they do have your TIN and ID card so they can just look it up.
Anyways lets get to the meat of the discussion.
> So why would the grouping of three welsh tribes themselves not form a tribe?
Previous to unification, the various groups had different customs, leadership, and their languages were similar but not the same.
For a living example, let's take the Akan supergroup. There are various tribes within the supergroup, and in general each speaks a language that is mutually intelligible with tribes that they border. However, the further you get away from your hometown, the less likely that you can easily understand what's being spoken even though it's an 'Akan' language.
It wasn't until unification that they became a single tribe. Because of the war, the dominant group enforced its language and customs upon everyone else.
If we look at the UK in general, we can agree that there are at least three tribes: Welsh, Scots, Britons.
The concept of tribe and government aren't identical. You can have a government rule over many tribes. And you can have a tribe split between into two governments (e.g. Ewe in Togo). However, they are interrelated since without a unifying government, there is more cultural and linguistic drift leading to the eventual division of the tribe.
> Note that the Akans are called a tribe...
As per above, the Akan aren't a tribe. I call them a supergroup. Others call them a meta-ethnicity. The basic agreement is that the Akan aren't atomic and the subparts have significant differences.
The classification of the Ewe is a whole other discussion. Because they were previously unified, and have the concept of 'Eweland'. Additionally, the largest sublanguages Anlo and Mina are mutually understandable, and I can't find anyone who speaks a form of Ewe who can't understand these. The only division is in government (chieftaincy) and some spiritual practices. So, there are a lot of reasons to argue the Ewe are a single tribe.
> My point is that concept is entirely arbitrary, and not applied to other groups exhibiting similar characteristics.
What would you call it instead?
I think you may be reacting to the word 'tribe' because it connotes inferiority, not because it actually means inferiority.
The connotation is natural because as nations emerged, it benefited them to squash tribal divisions and thus the idea of 'tribalism' is tainted as being something out-of-date, or inferior to the nation. The word 'ethnicity' doesn't have the same problems even though but it means the same thing.
[1] https://nia.gov.gh/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/application_form.pdf https://nia.gov.gh/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/application_fo...
- prmph 5y ago> Me too, since COVID. East Legon, near Blue House (if you know Accra, you know what I mean.) I know East Legon; in fact I live not too far from that neighborhood. I also grew up here, but spent some years in the US before returning. Maybe we can meet and reach a consensus (or agree to disagree) over coffee, if you're up for it :) > The Ghana card requires it. It's called 'HOMETOWN' vs 'place of birth'. If you are a Fanti, and try to say Accra is your hometown they won't accept it. [1] While the application may require you to specify your hometown, there is no verification for this, in so far as your many Ghanaians live and were born in towns different from where they traditionally come from. In other words, your hometown does not necessarily indicate your ethnicity, and many Ghanaians are of mixed ethnicity, like myself. I'm sure I could claim to be from a different hometown, and they would have absolutely no way to verify it. As an indication that is it not considered an important piece of information, the hometown does not actually appear on the card you are issued with. > For a living example, let's take the Akan supergroup. There are various tribes within the supergroup, and in general each speaks a language that is mutually intelligible with tribes that they border. However, the further you get away from your hometown, the less likely that you can easily understand what's being spoken even though it's an 'Akan' language. It's just a matter of definition. I assure you that most Akans will not have a problem understanding the language spoken in other nearby towns, save for some groups that are distant from the mainstream Akan culture, like the Nzema. > As per above, the Akan aren't a tribe. In so far as they share many aspects of culture (e.g., matrilineal inheritance, a common origin story, common naming system, etc.) that are distinct from non-Akan cultures, then by the definition of "tribe" they can indeed be classed as such. Now you might prefer to call them a supergroup, but that does not invalidate my point. See the point I'm making is, the concept of tribe can actually obscure that commonalities between people. There is evidence of significant cross-cultural influence amongst the various groups in Ghana. Many Ghanaians do not know this, but there is even an ethnicity ("tribe" if you may) called the "Guan" that is indigenous to 8 regions. They can be found an as enclave within almost every major ethnicity in Ghana. This fact shows how complex the concept of ethnicity can be. > What would you call it instead? A word like "ethnic group" does not have the baggage of colonialist attitudes, and it is used for people all over the word (including western countries), so I'm comfortable with that.