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> USA is relatively easy to migrate to compared to basically anywhere in western Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, or South Korea I dunno about that, as a profession

> USA is relatively easy to migrate to compared to basically anywhere in western Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, or South Korea I dunno about that, as a professional developer in the UK it's way easier to immigrate to Canada or Australia than the US.

lambic 5y ago
They're commonwealth countries so that has an impact, but yes USA is hard to get into.
908B64B197 5y ago
What's interesting with Canada and Australia is that they use a point system... that never actually checks for employability. So you end up with "senior engineers" in Canada/Australia driving taxis and not ever being able to land a job as engineers, even though they got enough points to immigrate by being one, at least on paper. In the US, someone has to be able to get a job above market rates (so convince an employer and the government that his skills are required) before even being considered for immigration. So I wouldn't say it's harder, at least for someone really qualified.
- rowanajmarshall 5y ago
  > they use a point system... that never actually checks for employability Well, they both give major points if you've got a job offer so I wouldn't say that. But right now (COVID aside) I could apply to Australia, get my visa and be living in Melbourne inside 6 months, then citizenship in about 4 years. For the US, I'd have to: - Get a job with a US company here - Work there for a year and hope they're willing to transfer me on an L1 visa - Hope the US Immigration RNG comes up with my name - After working for a while, transfer onto an employment-based visa while hoping I get sponsored for that too.
perl4ever 5y ago
You may be right, but immigration conditions for professional developers in wealthy countries who are explicitly privileged by immigration law are a bit of a change of topic.

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> USA is relatively easy to migrate to compared to basically anywhere in western Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, or South Korea I dunno about that, as a profession

by rowanajmarshall 5y ago

lambic 5y ago
They're commonwealth countries so that has an impact, but yes USA is hard to get into.
908B64B197 5y ago
What's interesting with Canada and Australia is that they use a point system... that never actually checks for employability. So you end up with "senior engineers" in Canada/Australia driving taxis and not ever being able to land a job as engineers, even though they got enough points to immigrate by being one, at least on paper. In the US, someone has to be able to get a job above market rates (so convince an employer and the government that his skills are required) before even being considered for immigration. So I wouldn't say it's harder, at least for someone really qualified.
- rowanajmarshall 5y ago
  > they use a point system... that never actually checks for employability Well, they both give major points if you've got a job offer so I wouldn't say that. But right now (COVID aside) I could apply to Australia, get my visa and be living in Melbourne inside 6 months, then citizenship in about 4 years. For the US, I'd have to: - Get a job with a US company here - Work there for a year and hope they're willing to transfer me on an L1 visa - Hope the US Immigration RNG comes up with my name - After working for a while, transfer onto an employment-based visa while hoping I get sponsored for that too.
perl4ever 5y ago
You may be right, but immigration conditions for professional developers in wealthy countries who are explicitly privileged by immigration law are a bit of a change of topic.