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TinkerOS: A Fork of TempleOS

21 points by Rendello 5y ago

Rendello 5y ago
I have a big appreciation for TempleOS, it's how I learned C after only knowing high-level programming for years. This is a project by a friend that I think is a great direction for TempleOS forks: it stays close to the source material, it offers bug-fixes and new hardware support, and it does it all in a way that neither mocks Terry Davis, the late- and mentally ill- TempleOS creator, nor puts him on a pedestal. It's respectful, and it's fun. If you try it out be sure to play the new Oregon Trail port!
- spicybright 5y ago
  It makes me so happy how the software community has treated Terry despite the very terrible demons he struggled with. It's not often that happens. It reminds a lot of artists who were societal outcasts. Suffering their whole life and shunned only for their work to be deeply appreciated after they die. Hope people can continue taking this point of view to heart, especially in the age of one unpopular tweet destroying someones reputation and careers. But more on topic, that's so cool to hear you learned C from TempleOS, I don't know many actual users that dive in that far. I'm going to try running this after work today and try out the game if I can :)
fullsend 5y ago
I used to watch the TempleOS creators channel just because he was so wild. Constantly ranting about how god told him to build the OS and randomly exclaiming the n-word or some racist statement. Living on some form of welfare I believe? What a story. Interesting to see someone continuing the code portion of his work.
- sneak 5y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=TerryADavis https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=TerryADavis
  - ziddoap 5y ago
    That was an absolutely wild ride. I must be missing some context though, I don't understand all of the "talking space alien" stuff (well, I don't understand any of it. But, the alien stuff seems pretty left-field, comparitively). >I made the third temple. I proved God scientifically once and for all. I am more famous than Jesus in the history of man. >I have a talking space alien. >I jhave authority to impose a temple tax on the world. >I have authority over INtel and Microsoft.
    - sneak 5y ago
      > I must be missing some context though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_A._Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_A._Davis > In 1996, he began experiencing regular manic episodes, one of which led him to hospitalization. Initially diagnosed with bipolar disorder, he was later declared to have schizophrenia. He died in 2018.
      - ziddoap 5y ago
        Fascinating and sad story. Reading that lead me to a Motherboard profile [1], which explained that pressing F7 on the keyboard served up a piece of 'tongues' text. Repeatedly pressing it generated sentences. And suddenly, all of the comments that he has on HN starting with "God says..." make sense (in a way). [1]https://www.vice.com/en/article/wnj43x/gods-lonely-programmer https://www.vice.com/en/article/wnj43x/gods-lonely-programme...
  - nextaccountic 5y ago
    So, he was shadowbanned?
    - Rendello 5y ago
      Yes. (Shadowbanning is pretty common in HN I find, although the moderators say they will reach out to most users before they ban them.)
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
- Rendello 5y ago
  (Context, the late creator of the original TempleOS, Terry Davis, was very schizophrenic.) This video is the definitive rundown on his life and illness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg Terry Davis, in life and online, was completely wild. What's interesting though is that when you play in TempleOS for a little while, it's easy to forget that. The OS is religious and super idiosyncratic, but that nasty, manic, hateful, attitude isn't there (with few exceptions). And the code and docs are damn good. I think Terry tried hard to keep the actual OS and documentation "pure", in a way. I think digging in and working on extremely complex C code was a regulating force that calmed him, in the exact opposite way that being jeered at online (especially by 4Chan and the like) upset him and made his condition worse.

21 points by Rendello 5y ago

I have a big appreciation for TempleOS, it's how I learned C after only knowing high-level programming for years. This is a project by a friend that I think is a great direction for TempleOS forks: it stays close to the source material, it offers bug-fixes and new hardware support, and it does it all in a way that neither mocks Terry Davis, the late- and mentally ill- TempleOS creator, nor puts him on a pedestal. It's respectful, and it's fun. If you try it out be sure to play the new Oregon Trail port!

spicybright 5y ago
It makes me so happy how the software community has treated Terry despite the very terrible demons he struggled with. It's not often that happens. It reminds a lot of artists who were societal outcasts. Suffering their whole life and shunned only for their work to be deeply appreciated after they die. Hope people can continue taking this point of view to heart, especially in the age of one unpopular tweet destroying someones reputation and careers. But more on topic, that's so cool to hear you learned C from TempleOS, I don't know many actual users that dive in that far. I'm going to try running this after work today and try out the game if I can :)

fullsend 5y ago

I used to watch the TempleOS creators channel just because he was so wild. Constantly ranting about how god told him to build the OS and randomly exclaiming the n-word or some racist statement. Living on some form of welfare I believe? What a story. Interesting to see someone continuing the code portion of his work.

sneak 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=TerryADavis https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=TerryADavis
- ziddoap 5y ago
  That was an absolutely wild ride. I must be missing some context though, I don't understand all of the "talking space alien" stuff (well, I don't understand any of it. But, the alien stuff seems pretty left-field, comparitively). >I made the third temple. I proved God scientifically once and for all. I am more famous than Jesus in the history of man. >I have a talking space alien. >I jhave authority to impose a temple tax on the world. >I have authority over INtel and Microsoft.
  - sneak 5y ago
    > I must be missing some context though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_A._Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_A._Davis > In 1996, he began experiencing regular manic episodes, one of which led him to hospitalization. Initially diagnosed with bipolar disorder, he was later declared to have schizophrenia. He died in 2018.
    - ziddoap 5y ago
      Fascinating and sad story. Reading that lead me to a Motherboard profile [1], which explained that pressing F7 on the keyboard served up a piece of 'tongues' text. Repeatedly pressing it generated sentences. And suddenly, all of the comments that he has on HN starting with "God says..." make sense (in a way). [1]https://www.vice.com/en/article/wnj43x/gods-lonely-programmer https://www.vice.com/en/article/wnj43x/gods-lonely-programme...
- nextaccountic 5y ago
  So, he was shadowbanned?
  - Rendello 5y ago
    Yes. (Shadowbanning is pretty common in HN I find, although the moderators say they will reach out to most users before they ban them.)
- netizen-936824 5y ago
Rendello 5y ago
(Context, the late creator of the original TempleOS, Terry Davis, was very schizophrenic.) This video is the definitive rundown on his life and illness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCgoxQCf5Jg Terry Davis, in life and online, was completely wild. What's interesting though is that when you play in TempleOS for a little while, it's easy to forget that. The OS is religious and super idiosyncratic, but that nasty, manic, hateful, attitude isn't there (with few exceptions). And the code and docs are damn good. I think Terry tried hard to keep the actual OS and documentation "pure", in a way. I think digging in and working on extremely complex C code was a regulating force that calmed him, in the exact opposite way that being jeered at online (especially by 4Chan and the like) upset him and made his condition worse.