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My guess is the richer countries make it hard to migrate to them. USA is relatively easy to migrate to compared to basically anywhere in western Europe, UK, Ca
by VWWHFSfQ 5y ago
My guess is the richer countries make it hard to migrate to them. USA is relatively easy to migrate to compared to basically anywhere in western Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, or South Korea.
- gassiss 5y agoI don't know about the others, but Canada is probably the easiest developed country to immigrate to. You can basically get a green card before you even land
- cblconfederate 5y agoUsa is harder
- atemerev 5y agoUSA is one of the hardest countries in the world to immigrate (and still one of the most attractive).
- Jensson 5y agoIf you include illegal immigration then USA is probably easier than most other western nations. USA is very accepting of illegal immigrants for some reason.
- kevinventullo 5y agoYou know it never really occurred to me before this, but is there anything more American than working hard to skirt poorly implemented rules in order to enrich yourself and those around you? Am I talking about illegal immigrants or Uber?
- Jensson 5y agoThat is a good point. California is top both on tech start-ups and illegal immigrants.
- atemerev 5y agoI don't think that's true again. USA deports more illegal immigrants than any other nation. There are "sanctuary cities", but they only work when you are pristine clear before the law: one administrative mistake (which are easy for illegal immigrants, and often engineered to be this way) -- and you are eligible for deportation.
- rowanajmarshall 5y ago> USA is relatively easy to migrate to compared to basically anywhere in western Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, or South Korea I dunno about that, as a professional developer in the UK it's way easier to immigrate to Canada or Australia than the US.
- lambic 5y agoThey're commonwealth countries so that has an impact, but yes USA is hard to get into.
- 908B64B197 5y agoWhat's interesting with Canada and Australia is that they use a point system... that never actually checks for employability. So you end up with "senior engineers" in Canada/Australia driving taxis and not ever being able to land a job as engineers, even though they got enough points to immigrate by being one, at least on paper. In the US, someone has to be able to get a job above market rates (so convince an employer and the government that his skills are required) before even being considered for immigration. So I wouldn't say it's harder, at least for someone really qualified.
- rowanajmarshall 5y ago> they use a point system... that never actually checks for employability Well, they both give major points if you've got a job offer so I wouldn't say that. But right now (COVID aside) I could apply to Australia, get my visa and be living in Melbourne inside 6 months, then citizenship in about 4 years. For the US, I'd have to: - Get a job with a US company here - Work there for a year and hope they're willing to transfer me on an L1 visa - Hope the US Immigration RNG comes up with my name - After working for a while, transfer onto an employment-based visa while hoping I get sponsored for that too.
- perl4ever 5y agoYou may be right, but immigration conditions for professional developers in wealthy countries who are explicitly privileged by immigration law are a bit of a change of topic.