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Oddly, the New York Times failed to send a breaking news push notification for the highest inflation in close to 40 years, while it did for some positive but fa

Oddly, the New York Times failed to send a breaking news push notification for the highest inflation in close to 40 years, while it did for some positive but fairly normal employment numbers a week ago. (Oops, not true, I just didn't notice it. Good job NYT!)

sneak 5y ago
I've been reading this book this week: https://www.thegrayladywinked.com/ https://www.thegrayladywinked.com/ This isn't a recommendation (I'm not through it yet) but it's an interesting perspective.
- etchalon 5y ago
  I'm immediately turned off by "rewriting American History with the 1619 project." It looks like the author is taking well-known, well-covered historical embarrassments by the Times, and plugging in current conservative talking points.
  - sneak 5y ago
    I was turned off by that too, but I'm actually the kind of person who makes a point of reading things written by intelligent people with whom I ideologically diverge. I also acknowledge that I lack the authoritative knowledge of history to evaluate whether assertion that the 1619 project is rewriting history is true or not. I rather like the 1619 project and its narratives, so perhaps I'll add some books to my list for the coming year to be able to call bullshit on that or not. In general my promotion of things that increase skepticism in statements made by authority (such as the NYT) outweighs my disdain for the brawlers in the current US culture war.
    - etchalon 5y ago
      Weirdly, I tend to only read things which challenge my thinking, and avoid things which confirm it, so I haven't read the 1619 project itself, only the commentary around it. I understand the behavior makes no logical sense but … it's just the way I am. What I've found is that there is no disagreement over the facts presented, only interpretations of those facts. I've searched, in vain, for reputable historians challenging specific factual claims made by the project. I haven't read one. The largest, credible criticisms are more or less either a tone argument ("Slavery was A motivation of SOME") or alternate fact discussions, some of which are interesting but none of which I'd count as discrediting anything. The rest of what I've read is mostly Founding Father Worship which I have zero time for.
systemvoltage 5y ago
NYT doesn’t like to talk about things that doesn’t fit the party narrative. Fox covered the Apple/China news story by The Information. Not a peep from NYT.
- etchalon 5y ago
  Seeing how many critical stories NYT has filed on both China and Apple, I have no idea how that story has anything do to with the "party narrative". Likely, they haven't covered it yet because they haven't been able to source it themselves, or the story is taking a while. Fox regurgitates others reporting. NYT does original reporting, so the shape and timing of "coverage" often looks different between the two.
etchalon 5y ago
I'm not sure why that would be "breaking news". It's been a constant story.
app 5y ago
Untrue, I just looked at my phone and I have an NYT alert from 3 hours ago: "Inflation hit the highest rate in a generation last month. Consumer prices rose by nearly 7%..." It's also right on the front page of NYT.com
- baggy_trough 5y ago
  Ah you are right, sorry.

sneak 5y ago

I've been reading this book this week: https://www.thegrayladywinked.com/ https://www.thegrayladywinked.com/ This isn't a recommendation (I'm not through it yet) but it's an interesting perspective.

etchalon 5y ago
I'm immediately turned off by "rewriting American History with the 1619 project." It looks like the author is taking well-known, well-covered historical embarrassments by the Times, and plugging in current conservative talking points.
- sneak 5y ago
  I was turned off by that too, but I'm actually the kind of person who makes a point of reading things written by intelligent people with whom I ideologically diverge. I also acknowledge that I lack the authoritative knowledge of history to evaluate whether assertion that the 1619 project is rewriting history is true or not. I rather like the 1619 project and its narratives, so perhaps I'll add some books to my list for the coming year to be able to call bullshit on that or not. In general my promotion of things that increase skepticism in statements made by authority (such as the NYT) outweighs my disdain for the brawlers in the current US culture war.
  - etchalon 5y ago
    Weirdly, I tend to only read things which challenge my thinking, and avoid things which confirm it, so I haven't read the 1619 project itself, only the commentary around it. I understand the behavior makes no logical sense but … it's just the way I am. What I've found is that there is no disagreement over the facts presented, only interpretations of those facts. I've searched, in vain, for reputable historians challenging specific factual claims made by the project. I haven't read one. The largest, credible criticisms are more or less either a tone argument ("Slavery was A motivation of SOME") or alternate fact discussions, some of which are interesting but none of which I'd count as discrediting anything. The rest of what I've read is mostly Founding Father Worship which I have zero time for.

systemvoltage 5y ago

NYT doesn’t like to talk about things that doesn’t fit the party narrative. Fox covered the Apple/China news story by The Information. Not a peep from NYT.

etchalon 5y ago
Seeing how many critical stories NYT has filed on both China and Apple, I have no idea how that story has anything do to with the "party narrative". Likely, they haven't covered it yet because they haven't been able to source it themselves, or the story is taking a while. Fox regurgitates others reporting. NYT does original reporting, so the shape and timing of "coverage" often looks different between the two.

etchalon 5y ago

I'm not sure why that would be "breaking news". It's been a constant story.

app 5y ago

Untrue, I just looked at my phone and I have an NYT alert from 3 hours ago: "Inflation hit the highest rate in a generation last month. Consumer prices rose by nearly 7%..." It's also right on the front page of NYT.com

baggy_trough 5y ago
Ah you are right, sorry.