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A few years back I got a handful of letters about getting my Nissan LEAF's radio updated from 2g to 3g. They wanted to charge me $200 USD for it. I didn't bothe

A few years back I got a handful of letters about getting my Nissan LEAF's radio updated from 2g to 3g. They wanted to charge me $200 USD for it. I didn't bother and it's ended up resulting in very little change for me - Mostly features I didn't really use. It's nice to know what just a few years later I'd be facing the same problem again.

OldHand2018 5y ago
I've been told that on my Subaru, if I subscribe to the services that need it, they will do the upgrade for free. But if I don't subscribe, they won't do it at all. I'm fine with that, I am unreasonably against subscriptions, lol.
- jtbayly 5y ago
  I’m unreasonably against both subscriptions and cars having modems.
  - enos_feedler 5y ago
    I suppose thats fine if your car isn’t doing any of the driving. Otherwise I might want my car talking to the outside world.
btgeekboy 5y ago
Hey, look at the upside - “unplugging” your car from the Internet may make it more secure.
- wlesieutre 5y ago
  In the Leaf's case, anyone with your VIN (ie anyone who can walk up to you car and look through the windshield) could turn on your car's AC over the internet and run the battery down. Whoops. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/02/nissans-connected-car-app-offline-after-shocking-vulnerability-revealed/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/02/nissans-connected-car-a...
  - rootsudo 5y ago
    That is interesting, you can walk through all the VINs since it's not really private. Sure, someone could walk up to your leaf and target you, but much easier to run through the entire string of VIN's, which, is 17 characters. GET https://[redacted].com/orchestration_1111/gdc/BatteryStatusRecordsRequest.php?RegionCode=NE&lg=no-NO&DCMID=&VIN=SJNFAAZE0U60XXXXX&tz=Europe/Paris&TimeFrom=2014-09-27T09:15:21 https://[redacted].com/orchestration_1111/gdc/BatteryStatusR... That's so cool, but also, no more. :) wonder what else is out there...

OldHand2018 5y ago

I've been told that on my Subaru, if I subscribe to the services that need it, they will do the upgrade for free. But if I don't subscribe, they won't do it at all. I'm fine with that, I am unreasonably against subscriptions, lol.

jtbayly 5y ago
I’m unreasonably against both subscriptions and cars having modems.
- enos_feedler 5y ago
  I suppose thats fine if your car isn’t doing any of the driving. Otherwise I might want my car talking to the outside world.

btgeekboy 5y ago

Hey, look at the upside - “unplugging” your car from the Internet may make it more secure.

wlesieutre 5y ago
In the Leaf's case, anyone with your VIN (ie anyone who can walk up to you car and look through the windshield) could turn on your car's AC over the internet and run the battery down. Whoops. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/02/nissans-connected-car-app-offline-after-shocking-vulnerability-revealed/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/02/nissans-connected-car-a...
- rootsudo 5y ago
  That is interesting, you can walk through all the VINs since it's not really private. Sure, someone could walk up to your leaf and target you, but much easier to run through the entire string of VIN's, which, is 17 characters. GET https://[redacted].com/orchestration_1111/gdc/BatteryStatusRecordsRequest.php?RegionCode=NE&lg=no-NO&DCMID=&VIN=SJNFAAZE0U60XXXXX&tz=Europe/Paris&TimeFrom=2014-09-27T09:15:21 https://[redacted].com/orchestration_1111/gdc/BatteryStatusR... That's so cool, but also, no more. :) wonder what else is out there...