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https://www.standard.net/news/health-news/2021/dec/09/study-myocarditis-cases-after-vaccine-mostly-mild-in-younger-patients/ https://www.standard.net/news/healt

https://www.standard.net/news/health-news/2021/dec/09/study-myocarditis-cases-after-vaccine-mostly-mild-in-younger-patients/ https://www.standard.net/news/health-news/2021/dec/09/study-... That was the public health/pharma messaging from a few weeks ago. The link is getting too obvious to ignore so that's shifted to "Well it happens but it isn't a big deal" recently.

Pyramus 5y ago
What do you even mean? National vaccination regulations reflect the myocarditis/pericarditis risk since half a year already. E.g. Germany doesn't vaccinate under 30s with Moderna etc.
- willcipriano 5y ago
  How did OP become so confident in the assertion that it does not cause heart issues? The US media has been claiming the myocarditis risk was some sort of antivax conspiracy theory, that is when they covered it at all.
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  - Pyramus 5y ago
    Not sure which "media" you got this from, myocarditis cases were first reported in young athletes with Covid, then army personnel that was vaccinated, if I remember correctly. The absolute risk is very small though, a lot smaller than e.g. driving a car.
    - willcipriano 5y ago
      Here is a example from NBC[0]. The headline is: "No, the COVID-19 vaccine does not cause myocarditis", the content does not line up with the assertion the headline makes and sort of weasel words it's way to "well it does but less then Covid", but most people just read the headline. I think media like this is what confused people to think: "the COVID-19 vaccine does not cause myocarditis". I've heard similar assertions on shows like The View and Good Morning America, but I don't have clips. [0] https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-myocarditis/281-219910e0-cb50-48d3-a623-a6be9a433679 https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-hesi... (backup: https://web.archive.org/web/20211123104116/https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-myocarditis/281-219910e0-cb50-48d3-a623-a6be9a433679 https://web.archive.org/web/20211123104116/https://www.king5...)
Karunamon 5y ago
I'm confused what your point is. The link between myocarditis and COVID vaccines is well-known and has been for a long time. And, per scientific literature, it's a rare side-effect with little long-term implications. This is neither recent nor a shift in messaging, and implying such is dishonest.
- hanselot 5y ago
  I love when the twitter fact check bots come to chip in here. Election fraud is exceedingly rare and saying otherwise is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
xorfish 5y ago
You are still much better of with the vaccine than with covid. While mRNA vaccines increase the risk by a factor of 3.2, covid increases the risk by a factor of 18.3. But there are many other averse things that may happen during an infection with sars-cov-2 https://smw.ch/article/doi/SMW.2021.w30087 https://smw.ch/article/doi/SMW.2021.w30087

Pyramus 5y ago

What do you even mean? National vaccination regulations reflect the myocarditis/pericarditis risk since half a year already. E.g. Germany doesn't vaccinate under 30s with Moderna etc.

willcipriano 5y ago
How did OP become so confident in the assertion that it does not cause heart issues? The US media has been claiming the myocarditis risk was some sort of antivax conspiracy theory, that is when they covered it at all.
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- Pyramus 5y ago
  Not sure which "media" you got this from, myocarditis cases were first reported in young athletes with Covid, then army personnel that was vaccinated, if I remember correctly. The absolute risk is very small though, a lot smaller than e.g. driving a car.
  - willcipriano 5y ago
    Here is a example from NBC[0]. The headline is: "No, the COVID-19 vaccine does not cause myocarditis", the content does not line up with the assertion the headline makes and sort of weasel words it's way to "well it does but less then Covid", but most people just read the headline. I think media like this is what confused people to think: "the COVID-19 vaccine does not cause myocarditis". I've heard similar assertions on shows like The View and Good Morning America, but I don't have clips. [0] https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-myocarditis/281-219910e0-cb50-48d3-a623-a6be9a433679 https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-hesi... (backup: https://web.archive.org/web/20211123104116/https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-hesitancy-myocarditis/281-219910e0-cb50-48d3-a623-a6be9a433679 https://web.archive.org/web/20211123104116/https://www.king5...)

Karunamon 5y ago

I'm confused what your point is. The link between myocarditis and COVID vaccines is well-known and has been for a long time. And, per scientific literature, it's a rare side-effect with little long-term implications. This is neither recent nor a shift in messaging, and implying such is dishonest.

hanselot 5y ago
I love when the twitter fact check bots come to chip in here. Election fraud is exceedingly rare and saying otherwise is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

xorfish 5y ago

You are still much better of with the vaccine than with covid. While mRNA vaccines increase the risk by a factor of 3.2, covid increases the risk by a factor of 18.3. But there are many other averse things that may happen during an infection with sars-cov-2 https://smw.ch/article/doi/SMW.2021.w30087 https://smw.ch/article/doi/SMW.2021.w30087