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It is an outrage channel. >It's an information channel that mostly shows you how things work in the Netherlands and makes the case that it's a better way than

It is an outrage channel. >It's an information channel that mostly shows you how things work in the Netherlands and makes the case that it's a better way than the idiotic car-centric north American way. Yes. Comparing apples to oranges. What an outrage! My apples have less vitamin C! How dare they. >If you're outraged after watching his videos I'm not. But the majority who do watch the video are. It's his fault. The same way people are outraged at many things unjustly after watching a video filled with bias.

scrollaway 5y ago
If it's an outrage channel how come I'm not outraged after watching all of his content? What i am is pleased to have learned a lot about dutch urban design. If anything outrages me, it's how you keep insisting this channel "compares" anything when all it does is showcases dutch cities, and once in a while complains about specific issues in his hometown of London ON.
cycomanic 5y ago
So you're saying it's an outrage channel based on what evidence? You say that the car centric cities of North America are like they are by thoughtful design and that NJB creates outrage by depicting this design as verfiably inferior while in reality it is just "what works for the country". So can you elaborate what is better (and works better) about the design of a car centric "stroad" City compared to a walkable city?
- seoulmetro 5y ago
  >So can you elaborate what is better (and works better) about the design of a car centric "stroad" City compared to a walkable city? You still don't get it. That's a shame. Have you looked at the US on a map? Do you know how much of the US is low density housing?
mcv 5y ago
Are people outraged by what he says, or by the reality he exposes? Should that reality then remain hidden to keep people complacent? I think it's reality that's outrageous, and it's people like NJB and Strong Towns that are pointing out it could be better, they are pointing out how to make it better. People are outraged because they realise how bad their infrastructure is, and how much better it could be. That's a positive, constructive type of outrage. It's not just fomenting anger for its own sake (as indeed happens way too often in other media).
- seoulmetro 5y ago
  It can't be better. That's the point. If someone told you that it can't be better, and it was the truth, you'd get pretty outraged at them when another person claimed that it was all just bad design and that they didn't want you to have the better thing. It's pretty obvious when you have no emotion to channel. Comparing apples to oranges is an easy way to get anyone upset. After all, who wouldn't want both?

scrollaway 5y ago

If it's an outrage channel how come I'm not outraged after watching all of his content? What i am is pleased to have learned a lot about dutch urban design. If anything outrages me, it's how you keep insisting this channel "compares" anything when all it does is showcases dutch cities, and once in a while complains about specific issues in his hometown of London ON.

cycomanic 5y ago

So you're saying it's an outrage channel based on what evidence? You say that the car centric cities of North America are like they are by thoughtful design and that NJB creates outrage by depicting this design as verfiably inferior while in reality it is just "what works for the country". So can you elaborate what is better (and works better) about the design of a car centric "stroad" City compared to a walkable city?

seoulmetro 5y ago
>So can you elaborate what is better (and works better) about the design of a car centric "stroad" City compared to a walkable city? You still don't get it. That's a shame. Have you looked at the US on a map? Do you know how much of the US is low density housing?

mcv 5y ago

Are people outraged by what he says, or by the reality he exposes? Should that reality then remain hidden to keep people complacent? I think it's reality that's outrageous, and it's people like NJB and Strong Towns that are pointing out it could be better, they are pointing out how to make it better. People are outraged because they realise how bad their infrastructure is, and how much better it could be. That's a positive, constructive type of outrage. It's not just fomenting anger for its own sake (as indeed happens way too often in other media).

seoulmetro 5y ago
It can't be better. That's the point. If someone told you that it can't be better, and it was the truth, you'd get pretty outraged at them when another person claimed that it was all just bad design and that they didn't want you to have the better thing. It's pretty obvious when you have no emotion to channel. Comparing apples to oranges is an easy way to get anyone upset. After all, who wouldn't want both?