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Unlivable wage? I can go to a warehouse here in cheap Central PA and have a job tomorrow making $30-35/hr working on the loading dock. You can live on that he

Unlivable wage? I can go to a warehouse here in cheap Central PA and have a job tomorrow making $30-35/hr working on the loading dock. You can live on that here. I think you are making excuses for them and it's not helping them.

kgwxd 5y ago
That specific place has a worker shortage problem? An actual shortage problem, not one they're pretending to have to jack up prices? Are they hiring people with a high school education at that rate?
- chrissnell 5y ago
  Yes, an actual shortage problem. My region is the transshipment hub for the entire Mid-Atlantic region. Part of the reason shipping is such a clusterfuck is because these docks are dreadfully understaffed. They will give you a $5000 bonus in your first paycheck if you go start a job on their loading docks tomorrow. Same story at virtually every biz around here. Edit: don't take my word for it, though. See for yourself: https://jobs.abf.com/abfjobs/JobDetail/Carlisle-Pennsylvania-United-States-Checker-Regular-Union/15715 https://jobs.abf.com/abfjobs/JobDetail/Carlisle-Pennsylvania...
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
The article's about the Bay Area, though. I mean, it's a lame excuse for crime, but your counter-argument doesn't work.
- chrissnell 5y ago
  Are you saying that the Bay Area doesn't have these same worker shortages driving up pay to never-before-seen levels? It's certainly happening here in PA, and it was happening back in my Texas hometown when I went back for Thanksgiving. It's happening in Kansas when I visited there last month. Is it really a lack of jobs driving these young people to crime, like the essay claims?
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    I'm saying that >> I can go to a warehouse here in cheap Central PA and have a job tomorrow making $30-35/hr working on the loading dock. You can live on that here isn't going to get you enough to live in the Bay Area. > Is it really a lack of jobs driving these young people to crime, like the essay claims? No, it's their own moral weakness plus perceived opportunity. I thought I made that clear in my previous comment.

kgwxd 5y ago

That specific place has a worker shortage problem? An actual shortage problem, not one they're pretending to have to jack up prices? Are they hiring people with a high school education at that rate?

chrissnell 5y ago
Yes, an actual shortage problem. My region is the transshipment hub for the entire Mid-Atlantic region. Part of the reason shipping is such a clusterfuck is because these docks are dreadfully understaffed. They will give you a $5000 bonus in your first paycheck if you go start a job on their loading docks tomorrow. Same story at virtually every biz around here. Edit: don't take my word for it, though. See for yourself: https://jobs.abf.com/abfjobs/JobDetail/Carlisle-Pennsylvania-United-States-Checker-Regular-Union/15715 https://jobs.abf.com/abfjobs/JobDetail/Carlisle-Pennsylvania...

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

The article's about the Bay Area, though. I mean, it's a lame excuse for crime, but your counter-argument doesn't work.

chrissnell 5y ago
Are you saying that the Bay Area doesn't have these same worker shortages driving up pay to never-before-seen levels? It's certainly happening here in PA, and it was happening back in my Texas hometown when I went back for Thanksgiving. It's happening in Kansas when I visited there last month. Is it really a lack of jobs driving these young people to crime, like the essay claims?
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  I'm saying that >> I can go to a warehouse here in cheap Central PA and have a job tomorrow making $30-35/hr working on the loading dock. You can live on that here isn't going to get you enough to live in the Bay Area. > Is it really a lack of jobs driving these young people to crime, like the essay claims? No, it's their own moral weakness plus perceived opportunity. I thought I made that clear in my previous comment.