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It depends where you are in CA, I specifically moved to a place where I would know people around me don't own guns (SF). I have a hard time seeing myself live a
by baby 5y ago
It depends where you are in CA, I specifically moved to a place where I would know people around me don't own guns (SF). I have a hard time seeing myself live anywhere where people are allowed to carry or buy guns liberally.
- whimsicalism 5y ago> I have a hard time seeing myself live anywhere where people are allowed to carry or buy guns liberally. you're not safe from these people in SF unfortunately due to new jurisprudence around 2A post-heller.
- gcheong 5y agoI’ve lived here (SF)for almost 20yrs and I have yet to see anyone open carry here unless they’re trying to make some political statement. Sure it could be that I just don’t see all the people that are carrying concealed but I do think there is much less of a gun carry culture here. As for ownership I know of one neighbor that has guns. I’m sure there are probably more but I imagine they’re kept mainly for recreational not defensive purposes much like how people kept guns in the small town I grew up in in Oregon before the whole “patriotic” gun toter culture became a thing.
- whimsicalism 5y agoOpen carry is illegal in Cali
- gcheong 5y agoThat would makes sense then, but even in Oregon where it is legal it's not common from my experience in most places.
- pengaru 5y agoA surprising number of people I've known who lived in SF proper owned handguns, fully aware of the legal ramifications. They were mostly well-off tech people, and didn't care about the legal risk any more than they obeyed speed limits. As always, there's laws, and then there's enforcement of those laws. You're completely delusional if you believe nobody in SF has guns at home because the law says so. Ask yourself how on earth such a thing would be enforced without police searching everyones' homes on a regular basis. My connections to the city have waned in the past decade or so, during which it sounds crime has only worsened. I'd assume there's even more gun ownership in response to what seems to be a police force unwilling to enforce laws and a continuous stream of growing area crime reported in the news. Out by me which is rural desert CA there's just guns all over the place. Technically it's illegal to fire anything other than a scattershot round in a shotgun openly around here (Morongo Basin), yet on any given weekend you'll hear all sorts of semi-auto and even full-auto shooting without any police response.
- baby 5y agoI’m talking mostly about culture. Most people seem to be anti gun here. Compare that with texas or arizona.
- pengaru 5y agoMeh, there's a whole lot of virtue signaling going on in a place like SF. What people say vs. what they do privately rarely align in my experience. It's even worse in LA IMO.
- gcheong 5y agoVirtue signaling about what though? The people I know that are pro-gun here aren't shy about it but they're not whining about their 2nd Amendment rights all the time either.
- pengaru 5y ago> Virtue signaling about what though? Is this a deliberate strawman? In a place like SF there's a lot of pressure to conform, and it's not in a pro-gun right-leaning trajectory. So what I mean to say is there's plenty of presentation of conformity, and it's often inauthentic. The stakes are high in a place like SF. People will keep their mouth shut or even fly the opposition's flag in the interests of preserving/increasing their salaries and stock refreshes until they can GTFO with their spoils in tow.