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I've always been a bit apprehensive of Tailwind but with the latest JIT compiler it actually seems usable. I'm happy to see it getting more use for mainstream a

I've always been a bit apprehensive of Tailwind but with the latest JIT compiler it actually seems usable. I'm happy to see it getting more use for mainstream applications but I wish it wasn't the "default" for a lot of open source projects. For example, several of the next.js examples[1] use tailwind without explicitly stating so, because I guess it's just become a ubiquitous as css stylesheets or modules for some people. The problem I find is that it adds opinion and mental overhead for people learning related technologies or trying to get a head start without an opinionated styling solution. In order to use something like the blog-starter example for next.js I have to go and learn tailwind and then come back before I can use their blog starter, where as CSS is universal. CSS works with every project, without depending on Tailwind. Anyway, looking forward to seeing newer improvements to Tailwind, but I hope that people will consider it an alternative to something like Bootstrap instead of an alternative to CSS. [1] https://github.com/vercel/next.js/tree/canary/examples/blog-starter https://github.com/vercel/next.js/tree/canary/examples/blog-...

dstroot 5y ago
> For example, several of the next.js examples[1] use tailwind without explicitly stating so, because I guess it's just become a ubiquitous as css stylesheets or modules for some people I used Bootstrap for years and give MDO major props. I learned Tailwindcss actually because it was starting to show up everywhere and many of the Next.js examples were using it. Now that I have used it I would say it changes how you think about css and styling - it gives you more power and more guardrails and it also then ships a smaller css load to the client. It was always a struggle to carve away the parts of Bootstrap you weren't using.
- chrysoprace 5y ago
  I'm sure it's very nice to use (I've been learning it in the past week), and I think it's a great alternative to Bootstrap. Personally, I'm not fully sold on it as a 100% alternative to styling with css (not least because you can't do pseudo element styling and have to add another node to the DOM). As someone who knows CSS, when I look at a template which uses tailwind I get overwhelmed because I have to mentally process what the 20 classes per node do in combination, where as I can look at a CSS module and (usually) instantly understand what's going on. Sure, once you've done a few tutorials and installed the VSCode extension you'll be able to find out what they do, but the code becomes almost unreadable for people not familiar with Tailwind.

dstroot 5y ago

> For example, several of the next.js examples[1] use tailwind without explicitly stating so, because I guess it's just become a ubiquitous as css stylesheets or modules for some people I used Bootstrap for years and give MDO major props. I learned Tailwindcss actually because it was starting to show up everywhere and many of the Next.js examples were using it. Now that I have used it I would say it changes how you think about css and styling - it gives you more power and more guardrails and it also then ships a smaller css load to the client. It was always a struggle to carve away the parts of Bootstrap you weren't using.

chrysoprace 5y ago
I'm sure it's very nice to use (I've been learning it in the past week), and I think it's a great alternative to Bootstrap. Personally, I'm not fully sold on it as a 100% alternative to styling with css (not least because you can't do pseudo element styling and have to add another node to the DOM). As someone who knows CSS, when I look at a template which uses tailwind I get overwhelmed because I have to mentally process what the 20 classes per node do in combination, where as I can look at a CSS module and (usually) instantly understand what's going on. Sure, once you've done a few tutorials and installed the VSCode extension you'll be able to find out what they do, but the code becomes almost unreadable for people not familiar with Tailwind.