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Something not really covered is this concept: "Maybe don't let one telecom company acquire too much control". Look at the history of everything that was acquir
by walrus01 5y ago
Something not really covered is this concept: "Maybe don't let one telecom company acquire too much control".
Look at the history of everything that was acquired by either Qwest/CenturyLink or Level3, and then the merger of Level3. You can't tell me that the existence of Lumen, the combined Centurylink-Level3 entity is good for anyone, except for their shareholders.
It's the very definition of too much centralization.
Look at all of the things that have now been jammed together into the modern Verizon, as well.
Look at the sad state of competition in Canada, with Rogers and Shaw trying to merge.
- FridayoLeary 5y agoIs it? In the UK BT owns all the wires and stuff yet i don't think it majorly affects consumers, nor are their competitiors being crushed.
- cortesoft 5y agoDepends on how heavily regulated it is
- gerdesj 5y agoSee if you can find our ENUM registry and use it. BT doesn't own our wires as such. OpenReach does (yes they were formally BT but spinned off). BT or OpenReach - who cares? The important thing is functionality. I'd like to provide you with a novel telephony setup but the lack of ENUM means I am not able to do that.
- M2Ys4U 5y ago>BT doesn't own our wires as such. OpenReach does (yes they were formally BT but spinned off). Openreach are a wholly-owned subsidiary of BT, they're not really independent.
- ssss11 5y agoThere are a couple of others who own wires but really only in London (colt, forget the other one) BT retail (the arm that sells to clients) has strict rules that forbid it from sharing with BT wholesale (the arm that sells to the other ISPs) so BT retail really can’t crush the competitors.. I don’t know the exact arrangement but they’re treated like any other ISP customer I believe
- lotsofpulp 5y agoAlso need fat upload pipes (i.e. fiber) to individuals’ homes so they can operate their own backup and peer to peer services. When 90%+ of people have no upload capacity at their house, and are behind tons of CGNAT, then onedrive/iCloud/google drive become the only solution for storing your things you can access later. Same with chat protocols.
- tkojames 5y agoThey just rolled out att fiber into my neighborhood. I was surprised as I live in a older neighborhood. Have overhead power lines talked with att installer and he said that was the reason we go it. Went from 1 gig down 30 mbps upload cable for 100 a month to 70 for gig full up and down and they gave me 400 bucks for signing up. It is pretty awesome having a direct fiber line to the house. My brother lives in Santa Rosa California and is on the list to get 10 gig fiber from Sonic for 65 a month. Hopefully things are starting to change. Once he has it I was thinking of just doing rysnc between us for backup.
- pabs3 5y agoWhat equipment does the fiber line plug into? Can you run your own device? Is it PON or AON fiber?
- judge2020 5y agoAT&T's residential offering requires you use their terminal[0] which is apparently a G-010G-A[1], so PON. They also require you use their own gateway+wifi combo unit[2], although you can do full IP passthrough so that the gateway doesn't even do ipv4 NAT. I have an installation tomorrow and will reply in case the box is a different model. 0: https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1011652/#:~:text=Optical%20Network%20Terminal%20(ONT) https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-inter... 1: https://www.ebay.com/itm/164939095713 https://www.ebay.com/itm/164939095713 2: https://forums.att.com/conversations/att-internet-equipment/att-fiber-using-own-router-modem-allowed/6009c7e4d8aa26542faf5a6c https://forums.att.com/conversations/att-internet-equipment/...
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- serverholic 5y agoStarlink should help with this by bypassing traditional networks.
- melony 5y agoThey are the definition of centralized.
- serverholic 5y agoTwo networks are less centralized than one. Why do people think centralization is binary?
- justinpombrio 5y agoAnd Starlink is especially good, because it can compete with all of the cable companies at once. No one will have a monopoly anymore. Hopefully a lot of people will suddenly start getting better service, which I hear is common when competition rolls into town.
- immibis 5y agoUnless Starlink becomes the new monopoly, which is worse because it's one global monopoly instead of a different monopoly per region.
- tzs 5y agoStarlink will not have enough bandwidth, even after the full constellation is deployed, to compete with even one cable company in a major metropolitan area. Starlink is designed for places where there is not a high customer density.
- serverholic 5y agoDo you have any resources to learn more about this?