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> Walking and spraying multiple houses... I was surprise there was no return fire, then I saw it was CA. Most folks on my street own a gun. First of all, I p

> Walking and spraying multiple houses... I was surprise there was no return fire, then I saw it was CA. Most folks on my street own a gun. First of all, I probably wouldn't have time to wait for cover, make it to my safe, pull a gun, take the safety off, make it to a safe position, aim, and fire before the threat left. But set that aside. No way in hell me or any of my neighbors would return fire at a moving target in a residential neighborhood. That's 100% how you accidentally kill someone (or get killed yourself).

giantg2 5y ago
My understanding from the article is that the person was on foot, not in a vehicle. There is risk in any action you take. If they're spraying more houses, nor acting could mean they kill some of your neighbors. There are a lot of variables that were missing just discussing this online.
- kragen 5y ago
  The article didn't say anything about whether the person was on foot or in a vehicle. I assumed they were in a vehicle because that's the way people would spray bullets into random houses in the neighborhoods I grew up in, precisely because it's enormously less risky, for precisely the reasons described above.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    It could just be a poorly written article, but I was going off of this. "Apparently, in the Bay Area right now, you can walk up a residential street firing your gun into houses, and you still won’t be able to compete for attention with all of the other sensational crimes."
    - kragen 5y ago
      I did see that, but the author doesn't claim to have been there, or claim that his "nanny" saw the perpetrator, or indeed claim that he was able to find any information about the crime from any other source. So I think he's just guessing about how this sort of thing happens. And, maybe I'm unreasonably reasoning from stereotypes here, but I think maybe a guy named "Leighton Woodhouse," who describes himself as a "progressive" and hires a "nanny" to raise his toddler, possibly may know too little about drive-by shootings to know what he doesn't know.
      - giantg2 5y ago
        That's certainly possible. I didn't see it mentioned as being a drive-by either. Usually that's treated almost like a buzz word people like to throw in a headline. Either way, I guess the data isn't there for us to ever know.
        kragen 5y ago
        Maybe nobody saw the shooter?
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  > the person was on foot And... what? standing still? People use their feet to MOVE. (Also, drive-bys are so called for reason...) If I shoot across my street, that bullet is either going into: 1. a (small, and, again, MOVING) human target, or 2. my neighbor's house. Have you ever shot at a target moving at 6-10+ miles/hour roughly perpendicular to your line of fire? Shit's not easy. If I let off more than one round, odds are high that at least one bullet is going into my neighbor's house. Oh. And if a bullet is shot into my house, that shit is coming into the house. Or did you think think glass panes/drywall stop bullets? So where the hell am I even going to take cover when exchanging fire? > There is risk in any action you take Basement. Lock door. Find cover. Wait. Rule zero of self defense: don't get into gunfights in an open street, and don't depend on drywall as a bulletproof barrier. (Actually, that's not even rule zero because most people aren't stupid enough that it has to be explicitly stated.)

giantg2 5y ago

My understanding from the article is that the person was on foot, not in a vehicle. There is risk in any action you take. If they're spraying more houses, nor acting could mean they kill some of your neighbors. There are a lot of variables that were missing just discussing this online.

kragen 5y ago
The article didn't say anything about whether the person was on foot or in a vehicle. I assumed they were in a vehicle because that's the way people would spray bullets into random houses in the neighborhoods I grew up in, precisely because it's enormously less risky, for precisely the reasons described above.
- giantg2 5y ago
  It could just be a poorly written article, but I was going off of this. "Apparently, in the Bay Area right now, you can walk up a residential street firing your gun into houses, and you still won’t be able to compete for attention with all of the other sensational crimes."
  - kragen 5y ago
    I did see that, but the author doesn't claim to have been there, or claim that his "nanny" saw the perpetrator, or indeed claim that he was able to find any information about the crime from any other source. So I think he's just guessing about how this sort of thing happens. And, maybe I'm unreasonably reasoning from stereotypes here, but I think maybe a guy named "Leighton Woodhouse," who describes himself as a "progressive" and hires a "nanny" to raise his toddler, possibly may know too little about drive-by shootings to know what he doesn't know.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      That's certainly possible. I didn't see it mentioned as being a drive-by either. Usually that's treated almost like a buzz word people like to throw in a headline. Either way, I guess the data isn't there for us to ever know.
      - kragen 5y ago
        Maybe nobody saw the shooter?
throwawaygh 5y ago
> the person was on foot And... what? standing still? People use their feet to MOVE. (Also, drive-bys are so called for reason...) If I shoot across my street, that bullet is either going into: 1. a (small, and, again, MOVING) human target, or 2. my neighbor's house. Have you ever shot at a target moving at 6-10+ miles/hour roughly perpendicular to your line of fire? Shit's not easy. If I let off more than one round, odds are high that at least one bullet is going into my neighbor's house. Oh. And if a bullet is shot into my house, that shit is coming into the house. Or did you think think glass panes/drywall stop bullets? So where the hell am I even going to take cover when exchanging fire? > There is risk in any action you take Basement. Lock door. Find cover. Wait. Rule zero of self defense: don't get into gunfights in an open street, and don't depend on drywall as a bulletproof barrier. (Actually, that's not even rule zero because most people aren't stupid enough that it has to be explicitly stated.)