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You realize Firefox only exists because it serves Google's interests right? And while Brave might be based on Chromium, it is distinct; in addition to not crip

You realize Firefox only exists because it serves Google's interests right? And while Brave might be based on Chromium, it is distinct; in addition to not crippling nativewebrequest as chrome will, it's native adblocker is compatible with the same lists as ublock origin. So I would go with Brave :)

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celsoazevedo 5y ago
What will Brave, Vivaldi, etc, do when Google makes some change that breaks the current APIs? Do they have the resources and are willing to continue to support them?
- seph-reed 5y ago
  FWIW, Brave does.
  - roca 5y ago
    Brave's long-term problem is that Google can set the cost of Brave's ongoing maintenance to whatever they want. In the 90s Microsoft called this "keeping the competition on a treadmill".
pkulak 5y ago
If Google is not able to control ad-blocking because all the Chromium clones refuse to play ball, what do you think they will do? I have no idea. Maybe just close Chromium entirely, and force all the clones to shut down since there's no way they have the engineering resources to keep up with Google. EDIT: Except for MSFT... that would be interesting for sure.
- roca 5y ago
  Microsoft already switched to Chromium because they decided not to devote engineering resources to keep up with Google.
kelnos 5y ago
> You realize Firefox only exists because it serves Google's interests right? Ironically, though, the larger Firefox's market share, the more Google will pay to be the default search engine in Firefox. Yes, it's perverse and a little gross that we depend on Google to such a large degree to keep Mozilla and Firefox funded, but having more users increases Mozilla's leverage over Google. Anyway, your point isn't really relevant. Unless you believe Google is dictating nefarious things to Mozilla and has subverted Firefox (difficult since Firefox is open source, but not impossible), you should still be using Firefox. If you care about not continuing to give a giant, monopolistic advertising company control over the web, anyway.
- Eelongate 5y ago
  > Ironically, though, the larger Firefox's market share, the more Google will pay to be the default search engine in Firefox. The smaller Firefox's market share, the more Mitchell Baker gets paid.

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celsoazevedo 5y ago

What will Brave, Vivaldi, etc, do when Google makes some change that breaks the current APIs? Do they have the resources and are willing to continue to support them?

seph-reed 5y ago
FWIW, Brave does.
- roca 5y ago
  Brave's long-term problem is that Google can set the cost of Brave's ongoing maintenance to whatever they want. In the 90s Microsoft called this "keeping the competition on a treadmill".

pkulak 5y ago

If Google is not able to control ad-blocking because all the Chromium clones refuse to play ball, what do you think they will do? I have no idea. Maybe just close Chromium entirely, and force all the clones to shut down since there's no way they have the engineering resources to keep up with Google. EDIT: Except for MSFT... that would be interesting for sure.

roca 5y ago
Microsoft already switched to Chromium because they decided not to devote engineering resources to keep up with Google.

kelnos 5y ago

> You realize Firefox only exists because it serves Google's interests right? Ironically, though, the larger Firefox's market share, the more Google will pay to be the default search engine in Firefox. Yes, it's perverse and a little gross that we depend on Google to such a large degree to keep Mozilla and Firefox funded, but having more users increases Mozilla's leverage over Google. Anyway, your point isn't really relevant. Unless you believe Google is dictating nefarious things to Mozilla and has subverted Firefox (difficult since Firefox is open source, but not impossible), you should still be using Firefox. If you care about not continuing to give a giant, monopolistic advertising company control over the web, anyway.

Eelongate 5y ago
> Ironically, though, the larger Firefox's market share, the more Google will pay to be the default search engine in Firefox. The smaller Firefox's market share, the more Mitchell Baker gets paid.