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They aren't the "coders" of the Rust project.

kazinator 5y ago
[This is what can happen when you forget to delete your dumb HN comment before the configured delay time. Sometimes it gets cemented with replies and then embarrassingly upvoted.] If they aren't coders and are "toxic" on top of that, get rid of them? Looks like a no-brainer to me. People upvoted my clueless comment because the assumption is that any people called "core" of a FOSS project must be the coders, or else something is wrong.
- XAMPPRocky 5y ago
  > If they aren't coders and are "toxic" on top of that, get rid of them? Looks like a no-brainer to me. The issue is that, there is no process to do that within the Rust-lang organisation. The core team is only accountable to themselves at this point.
- bishop_mandible 5y ago
  There is no process to get rid of them.
  - MLafayette 5y ago
    History nerd here: there are processes for when a leadership group no longer serves the public interest and is glued to their chairs.
    - paleotrope 5y ago
      Defenestration doesn't seem appropriate here.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - kazinator 5y ago
    The people who actually make Rust could simply disavow that Core Team. I suspect there are reasons why it doesn't simply go down like that. Perhaps it's simply a lack of motivaton; or else hands being tied in various ways (invariably connected to money somehow). Probably the best thing you can do as a FOSS developer is never grab any dollar waved in front of you and put it in your pocket, if you see so much as a tiny, barely discernible cotton fiber connecting that dollar to some people or conditions.
- burntsushi 5y ago
  There's an easy fix. Don't comment on stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. It's pretty simple. If you want a hint on what's wrong, here's one for you: discourse on the Internet sucks in part because of people such as yourself making "clueless" comments.
  - kazinator 5y ago
    Thanks for the feedback. Because of the way HN works, it supports a "nonlinear comment development process". You jot some random ideas into a comment, which can often turn into a good comment after several edits (in which those ideas no longer appear at all). Or not: it gets deleted before it is seen: there is a configurable delay before your comment goes public. I was sure that one wasn't going to be (in any shape), but I had to respond to some urgent things. That's it.

[This is what can happen when you forget to delete your dumb HN comment before the configured delay time. Sometimes it gets cemented with replies and then embarrassingly upvoted.] If they aren't coders and are "toxic" on top of that, get rid of them? Looks like a no-brainer to me. People upvoted my clueless comment because the assumption is that any people called "core" of a FOSS project must be the coders, or else something is wrong.

XAMPPRocky 5y ago
> If they aren't coders and are "toxic" on top of that, get rid of them? Looks like a no-brainer to me. The issue is that, there is no process to do that within the Rust-lang organisation. The core team is only accountable to themselves at this point.
bishop_mandible 5y ago
There is no process to get rid of them.
- MLafayette 5y ago
  History nerd here: there are processes for when a leadership group no longer serves the public interest and is glued to their chairs.
  - paleotrope 5y ago
    Defenestration doesn't seem appropriate here.
- deleted 5y ago
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- kazinator 5y ago
  The people who actually make Rust could simply disavow that Core Team. I suspect there are reasons why it doesn't simply go down like that. Perhaps it's simply a lack of motivaton; or else hands being tied in various ways (invariably connected to money somehow). Probably the best thing you can do as a FOSS developer is never grab any dollar waved in front of you and put it in your pocket, if you see so much as a tiny, barely discernible cotton fiber connecting that dollar to some people or conditions.
burntsushi 5y ago
There's an easy fix. Don't comment on stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. It's pretty simple. If you want a hint on what's wrong, here's one for you: discourse on the Internet sucks in part because of people such as yourself making "clueless" comments.
- kazinator 5y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. Because of the way HN works, it supports a "nonlinear comment development process". You jot some random ideas into a comment, which can often turn into a good comment after several edits (in which those ideas no longer appear at all). Or not: it gets deleted before it is seen: there is a configurable delay before your comment goes public. I was sure that one wasn't going to be (in any shape), but I had to respond to some urgent things. That's it.