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Well, if they're immigrants, they're not part of the "American dream" corpus, right ? Americans are dreaming of moving out, is what was said. America still has
by spacedcowboy 5y ago
Well, if they're immigrants, they're not part of the "American dream" corpus, right ? Americans are dreaming of moving out, is what was said.
America still has more to offer than a lot of the world, but it's not some shining peak in a valley of despair - it's more "middle of the table, some good, some bad". If you're here already, it's easy to look out, see, and decide to move where it's better, if you can.
Me ? I'm a Brit, been living here for the last almost two decades. I came here for the money and the weather, nothing more. Recently, the weather is a bit crap; the money's still good, but once I get to where I can FIRE, I'm out of this country. There's plenty of places better.
- nostrademons 5y agoThe American Dream has always been intimately tied in with the immigrant experience. People would leave their homes in Europe because they dreamt that America was a land of freedom and opportunity. It was a term largely setup in opposition to the rigid social structures of 19th-century Europe. Arguably the American Dream is very much intact, it's just that it's mostly brown & yellow people achieving it. I have a lot of friends who left their home country because there were no opportunities for them there, and now have the suburban house with a yard, 2 kids, white picket fence, neighborhood Trick'or'Treaters, good savings, and vacations whenever they need a break. They work very hard for what they have, which has always been part of the American Dream, but they get a good life in exchange for it.